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Oh not again! Homework?

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Surprisingly, there is still a large amount of questions that appear in various sections of Dream.In.Code that ask for homework solutions. Not those that ask to fix some code (which is fine by me), but those that ask for ready-to-go solutions. More than that, I see people requesting for thesis help in the "give me the codes" manner. And this gets me thinking - what was that person doing while in college instead of learning how to program? That's 4 (or maybe 2) years of studying software engineering or computer science. When I see a person who reached that level, but is stating that he is unsure where to put the codes for the program to work, that's just interesting at least. Add to that list the people that are already employed and have projects assigned. Is it pure laziness? Lack of experience? Maybe a little bit of both.

What do we do about it?

So what do we do here on Dream.In.Code about these topics? We delete them. Why? Simply because this is against the site policy and after all, don't expect helpful replies to be posted in a topic where the poster shows zero effort to solve the existing problem. Although there are exceptions, where you can post some helpful tips, like referencing an article that covers a similar problem or show an existing thread that describes the same issue, these are extremely rare.

That being said, users who constantly keep posting such threads are on the list to be set for moderator preview.


Why is this beneficial?


This really is an obvious answer, but people who are asking for help in the manner above later on get their diplomas and degrees. In a field they really have no idea about? Software development is about constantly learning new stuff and we're here to help with that. Although the definition of help is different from person to person, the overall understanding we try to promote here on Dream.In.Code is this - if you expect us to help you, show that you attempted to do the job and aren't just expecting us to do it for you.

If that's the case, Give the man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you'll feed him for his entire life. and we try to stick to this idea.

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mostyfriedman Icon

04 August 2010 - 09:31 AM
i would also like to add that some people dont know their way around, because they got a lousy education from lousy online schools or whatever..i however don't like to blame schools since you can learn a lot of stuff on your own if you have real thirst for knowledge.
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Jstall Icon

04 August 2010 - 10:47 AM
I am baffled by the seemingly never ending flood of people going through the registration process here at D.I.C only to make a "giv code for working with db plx" post. I try to imagine the person's thought process. What are they thinking? They are literate, they can sign up, they know how to make a post, can they not see the big red READ THIS FIRST element at the top of the page??

I've also seen people that post and want the code with absolutely no interest in how it works. I've seen a number of posts where after being pointed towards a tutorial the OP will respond with "I don't want to read the tutorial just give me the exact code" or something similar. I figure most of those types are people that started a CS program and have decided it wasn't for them and intend on changing but don't want a failing grade.

These types of things more confound than annoy me but I bet it gets under some of the mods skin after awhile. Putting code in tags and posting the D.I.C policy on helping would get tedious I imagine.

I agree wholeheartedly with deleting the threads and looking into reviewing the accounts of those who do this type of thing repeatedly.
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Mercurial Icon

04 August 2010 - 11:26 AM
What was that person doing while in college instead of learning how to program? Is it pure laziness? Lack of experience? On the first year on uni, I meet alot of guys who were there just because they 'liked computers'. In other words 'I'm not sure what to do for a living. I like spending time in front of a computer, so I could maybe get a degree in CS?'. They don't say it, but you can read them like a book.Those guys approached me many times, asking for help, and I helped them. It was kind of hillarious, in moments :bigsmile:. It was something like this: "Can you give me your homework code? I just gotta check something..." -Sure... I knew right away that he's gonna copy it, but nevermind. He took half of my code, and half of other guy's code and pasted it in a Java Project, and went crazy for 30 minutes screaming: "WHY WOULDN'T IT WORK?!?!". Now THAT is a 'give me codes' guy. In other words, a guy trying to get his degree in CS motivated by 'I like computers'.
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macosxnerd101 Icon

04 August 2010 - 11:35 AM
Give him the compiled .class file that displays "I'm an idiot that tries to copy other people's work" in a JOptionPane window 500 times. ;)
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Core Icon

04 August 2010 - 11:48 AM

Mercurial, on 04 August 2010 - 07:26 PM, said:

On the first year on uni, I meet alot of guys who were there just because they 'liked computers'. In other words 'I'm not sure what to do for a living. I like spending time in front of a computer, so I could maybe get a degree in CS?'.


As far as I know, you can always switch majors, so why not do it early? The thing is - once college is over, people start looking for jobs specific for their major. Of course, nobody ties someone down to the major-job thing, but basically the major is one of the deciding factors for the future career. It's one thing when a college student looks for someone to do the work for him (although I expressed my opinion on this in the above blog post), but it's completely different when someone with a job does that.
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Dogstopper Icon

04 August 2010 - 03:27 PM

macosxnerd101, on 04 August 2010 - 01:35 PM, said:

Give him the compiled .class file that displays "I'm an idiot that tries to copy other people's work" in a JOptionPane window 500 times. ;)


Or never-ending loop... :)
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bcranger Icon

04 August 2010 - 06:21 PM
Whoa that quote is my XC coach's favorite saying!
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moopet Icon

21 August 2010 - 04:53 AM
This is starting to piss me off. These drive-by questions from people who don't even bother to read the big red blurb are awful. Today I even found myself looking at one with a subject of "Plz help me" - as in something explicitly disallowed in the rules an inch above where the wunderkind typed it. Agh.
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Eric115 Icon

13 October 2010 - 04:44 AM
Unfortunately, we are always going to find the 'give me teh codez' people and well, there's not a lot we can do about it. The thing we can do is give them advice that maybe there not on the right track, need to re think their life and stop asking for the answers from others. Other than the occasional exception, these people seem to be getting tasks from somewhere (probably a school)and trying to use us like a code-writing service! I find some of the worst kind the copy and paste generation. (see here), the people who take advance code from somewhere else (or someone) and the post asking the most simple question, that should be no problem if they wrote the code they posted!
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