Fedora 11 was released a few days ago.

Didn't get a chance to install it until today. Chose to give KDE4 a try (I've been a Gnome user for 5-6 years) and so far I'm pretty impressed. Kopete is a little weird, but I really like Konqueror and Amarok (Internet Browser and Music Player).

Yesss! KDE rocks!
Try to disable javascript from konquerror and i think you will see the fastest browser...
Also as you will allready know you could have dynamic wallpapers without extra software, i know this is now important but it has it so you can use it.

Have a good time at KDE!

I've yet to give Fedora a "proper" go - downloading it now to take a look. So many distro's, so little time.....

What apps are bundled with it? Anything interesting?

Wow I'm not sure why I never replied, sorry.

Here is the Fedora 11 feature list.


Nothing out of the ordinary. Most distros generally ship the same applications. Some of the new KDE apps are cool, but I eventually did a reinstall with the Gnome version.

Only problem that I have run into so far is that the Intel ICH6 audio driver is buggy in recent kernel versions. I'm probably just going to stick with the version I have now until Fedora 12 is released, hopefully it will be fixed by then.

Haven't used Fedora 11 yet or 10 for that matter but from what I have heard from some of my Linux podcasts - KDE 4 has made some really big strides and is gaining ground rapidly.

I think KDE caught a bad rap earlier from all the hype on the KDE 3.4 release then it let everyone down.

But in regards to KDE 4
A lot more Ubuntu users are migrating to Kubuntu for that reason alone.

I used KDE4 for a few weeks and I liked it (mostly).

My problems with it:
* Kwin's compositing does not work on my laptop. I use the Open Source radeon driver which is still being developed so I'm not too critical about this, but compositing works fine in Gnome with Metacity (and Compiz works fine).
* Kwin's window borders become corrupted sometimes, again this is probably mostly a driver issue but it simply does not happen in any other DE I've tried.
* Python plasmoids were broken in F11, someone forgot some packages and it took awhile to track them down... This is really more of a Fedora issue than a KDE issue but you would think someone would have tested this before the release.
* Random weirdness? I'm not even sure how to describe this. Several times most of my desktop just disappeared.
* Some of the big KDE apps crashed several times during normal usage...

I really liked some of the KDE apps though (Karbon, Krita, Amarok when it wasn't crashing ).

Gnome doesn't have anything like plasmoids (gdesklets, screenlets just aren't as integrated). I generally keep a pretty clean desktop but having something similar to iGoogle on my desktop would be pretty nice if it worked well.

I may try KDE4 again when Fedora 12 is released. Hopefully they will do a better job next time...

Fedora 12 feature list here btw.