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Python VS. Java games

Python VS. Java games

WithnoMute	30 Jun, 2009 - 01:14 PM Post #1
New D.I.C Head Joined: 24 Feb, 2009 Posts: 5 My Contributions	I was wondering peoples takes on Python vs. Java games, i am mainly looking for multi platform programming. Basically any information about these languages in game programming would be great, im fairly capable of programming in both languages(java a little less). I know both have good libraries for game dev, but im not sure on speed and security of the game. Python being interpreted(can be made into an executable) and Java being run in VM, will impair the speed of the game. Java and Python are quite easy to get the source code, this is what worries me in the sense of making the game secure. Any views and ideas are appreciated, -With.no.Mute
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coden4fun	RE: Python VS. Java Games 30 Jun, 2009 - 01:25 PM Post #2
D.I.C Regular Joined: 27 Feb, 2009 Posts: 288 Thanked: 6 times Dream Kudos: 350 My Contributions	Python is a high level programming language designed for readability. As far as I know most all python games are made with the library Pygame, which is a wrapper of an older C++ library SDL. Java is a cross platform independent object-oriented programming language which realizes on a virtual machine called JVM. One can use the J2SE API or various other API's and libraries to make games. Making games in java can be hosted on a website, or be compiled to a program for any OS to play. I hope this helps!
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BetaWar	RE: Python VS. Java Games 30 Jun, 2009 - 01:31 PM Post #3
#include <soul.h> Joined: 7 Sep, 2006 Posts: 4,729 Thanked: 269 times Dream Kudos: 1400 My Contributions	Python or Java can be used (Both offer OOP style). I prefer python because you can create C/C++ libraries for it to use (that is what wxpython, pygame and most other python addons are made of - It greatly increases the speed as well as allows for compiling and increased security). Most of it is dependant on what you like best.
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Tom9729	RE: Python VS. Java Games 30 Jun, 2009 - 02:05 PM Post #4
Debian ninja Joined: 30 Dec, 2007 Posts: 2,129 Thanked: 53 times Dream Kudos: 425 My Contributions	QUOTE(BetaWar @ 30 Jun, 2009 - 04:31 PM) Python or Java can be used (Both offer OOP style). I prefer python because you can create C/C++ libraries for it to use (that is what wxpython, pygame and most other python addons are made of - It greatly increases the speed as well as allows for compiling and increased security). Most of it is dependant on what you like best. Offtopic, but you can use C/C++ libraries in Java. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Native_Interface Also I would argue that if anything using native libraries is less secure because you open yourself up to things that probably wouldn't happen in Python (buffer overflow, etc).
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WithnoMute	RE: Python VS. Java Games 30 Jun, 2009 - 02:35 PM Post #5
New D.I.C Head Joined: 24 Feb, 2009 Posts: 5 My Contributions	Yeah, my main focus is good cross platform code, i think using native libraries will just complicate things. I use Linux and always want to make cross platform programs. How would i protect the source code if using Python, i know you can encrypt source code like C++ but how will this work with Pythons interpreter. Which language is faster on the loading? I often used Java apps and they seem to take awhile to load, only used smaller Python programs so cant compare to larger scale. This post has been edited by WithnoMute: 30 Jun, 2009 - 02:37 PM
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BetaWar	RE: Python VS. Java Games 30 Jun, 2009 - 02:43 PM Post #6
#include <soul.h> Joined: 7 Sep, 2006 Posts: 4,729 Thanked: 269 times Dream Kudos: 1400 My Contributions	I believe there is a way to create a compiled python file, I am not sure if it does much other than zipping the files together, it may work.
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Tom9729	RE: Python VS. Java Games 30 Jun, 2009 - 03:40 PM Post #7
Debian ninja Joined: 30 Dec, 2007 Posts: 2,129 Thanked: 53 times Dream Kudos: 425 My Contributions	You can byte compile Python .py files into .pyc files, but you still need the interpreter to run them. Edit: http://docs.python.org/library/py_compile.html http://docs.python.org/library/compileall.html This post has been edited by Tom9729: 30 Jun, 2009 - 03:42 PM
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WithnoMute	RE: Python VS. Java Games 1 Jul, 2009 - 07:28 AM Post #8
New D.I.C Head Joined: 24 Feb, 2009 Posts: 5 My Contributions	so whats the speed difference between Python and Java? Just wondering which you can get to run faster.
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Tom9729	RE: Python VS. Java Games 1 Jul, 2009 - 10:04 AM Post #9
Debian ninja Joined: 30 Dec, 2007 Posts: 2,129 Thanked: 53 times Dream Kudos: 425 My Contributions	http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u32q/ben...ython&box=1 You can play around with some benchmarks there. Generally it looks like Java kills Python in just about everything which isn't really that surprising considering what they're usually used for. As a beginner, don't worry about performance. I'm not trying to tell you which language to use, but for most things Python will be "fast enough".
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