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Just starting out, what do you use?, Looking for a decent/popular IDE

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29 Mar, 2007 - 04:59 AM
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I'm about to start learning PHP. I'm looking for a decent IDE that I can preview the pages in etc.

What do you use? Has anyone got any pointers on what to get or what not to get?

I've tried Ruby on rails briefly and got it working then it stopped again for some reason and I haven't had the time to work out why.


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29 Mar, 2007 - 06:22 AM
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Personally, I just installed Apache, PHP, and MySQL and use notepad to program things, but I heard Eclipse is a good option.
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29 Mar, 2007 - 06:23 AM
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Ta, I'll give it a whirl.
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29 Mar, 2007 - 06:45 AM
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I like to use Dreamweaver, but if I am making a quick little script to do something I just do it in notepad. Also the php ide plugin for eclipse is good.
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29 Mar, 2007 - 07:01 AM
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I'm looking for something that'll kinda help me hit the ground running. I have bough an established PHP based website and I need to update it and add adsense etc. as soon as possible so I don't have time to the sit and learn the language entirely then implement the changes.

What I need is something that'll show the changes I've made before I upload them so I can do a bit of quickfire trial and error style programming then learn the language as I go once I have revenue coming in from the site.

I've heard of Eclipse before but I didn't know it did PHP. I'll give it a go. I'd like to eventually learn dreamweaver too but I don't have the time to dedicate to learning both DW and PHP at once.
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29 Mar, 2007 - 01:48 PM
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DevPHP is an alright IDE and I used it for a long time. But then I found notepad++ and haven't looked back. The only thing I miss about DevPHP is the addition of the () when you auto-completed a function name.
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29 Mar, 2007 - 02:37 PM
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I love notepad++ I found it a while back and now I have it on all my machines. At work I use it for xml etc.
I use Ultraedit for my J2ME because it has a few more features.

What I need is something that has editing and preview. I want to be able to switch between the code and the end result while I make mods.
Does DevPHP do that?
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29 Mar, 2007 - 05:34 PM
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DevPHP has a preview pane, but I've never gotten it to work well with PHP. It's just easier to modify, and refresh. (It really helps if you have a http server and whatever else installed locally as it really cuts down on the steps to view your work.)
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30 Mar, 2007 - 08:10 AM
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Give Apache a shot, it's worth it.
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30 Mar, 2007 - 09:29 AM
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I don't have any problems with Apache, I use it on two servers at work and used it on my old server at home before it started playing up.

I've got a new server that I'll run Gentoo on once I've had chance to set it up but while work is going on on my house I don't have anywhere for it so I need a self contained IDE that'll serve the pages locally as well as let me edit them so I can get developing in the mean time.
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QUOTE(hotsnoj @ 29 Mar, 2007 - 02:48 PM) *

DevPHP is an alright IDE and I used it for a long time. But then I found notepad++ and haven't looked back. The only thing I miss about DevPHP is the addition of the () when you auto-completed a function name.


I tried DevPHP just yesterday actually. I didn't really like it though. Couldn't get the internal preview to work, and the class browser was pretty poorly done. It didn't list things right, and it often gave me errors (Don't know what they were though. I think they were in dutch). Long story short: I wouldn't recommend it.
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31 Mar, 2007 - 09:06 AM
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I had the same problem with the preview.
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