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Wireless Routers, can they meet?

B@LL!ST!C
post 27 Aug, 2007 - 10:27 AM
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ok heres the scenario...
i need to connect 2 different rooms with 5 computers each. the rooms are around 300-400 meters apart.
the internet connection is at... lets say room 1.
is it possible that i could use 2 wireless routers to let them be like the connection between the 2 switches?
so room 2 can have internet connection?

or

do have any better idea?

kindly look at the diagram. smile.gif


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post 27 Aug, 2007 - 10:29 AM
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You would need to use one of the wireless routers as an access point, & not a router. You would have to check with the documentation that came with the device as to if this can be done, & if so, how to configure it as such.
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post 27 Aug, 2007 - 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(no2pencil @ 27 Aug, 2007 - 10:29 AM) *

You would need to use one of the wireless routers as an access point, & not a router. You would have to check with the documentation that came with the device as to if this can be done, & if so, how to configure it as such.


what i mean is...
rather than a physical connection(like the utp cable. but impossible cause from what i know 80 meters is the max length to connect.) i will use wireless connections.

QUOTE(no2pencil @ 27 Aug, 2007 - 10:29 AM) *

You would have to check with the documentation that came with the device as to if this can be done, & if so, how to configure it as such.


i'll try this one.
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post 27 Aug, 2007 - 01:08 PM
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yes it is possible if the wireless routers can be configured as bridges. if they cannot then sorry charlie it wont work
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post 27 Aug, 2007 - 01:32 PM
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Belkin has a series of wireless routers that can act as a bridge and an AP simultaneously. I had one for a while and used that feature, it works really well.

So in theory you could get something like that and have one bridge to another and so on.
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post 27 Aug, 2007 - 01:35 PM
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I was under the impression that a bridge connects networks that are not of similar types.

An access point is what I believe to be the correct term for this setup.

http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/n101236.asp shows an example setup of 2 netgear wireless routers as an access point & the other as the wireless router.

You would use the router as a one point, wireless connection that gets it's IP assigned to it from the router using DHCP (still set up as a wireless router). The (now) access point can then hand that IP address to one device connected to it. Just as you would use an external wireless device, or a single PC connected to a Cable / DSL modem.

I'm not trying to argue with you, Thorian, so if I'm wrong, explain to me further how this is a bridge rather than an access point.
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post 27 Aug, 2007 - 04:43 PM
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no2pencil they are of dissimalar types.

you have 2 segments that are using wired Ethernet and you wish to connect those 2 segments going AP to AP they will just broadcast out there. one would have to function as a bridge to translate the wireless signal back to the wired ethernet protocol.
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post 27 Aug, 2007 - 05:30 PM
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so it will depend on the routers if they are capable of this.

i'm using a D-Link 2XR 108G MIMO Wireless router
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post 27 Aug, 2007 - 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(Thorian @ 27 Aug, 2007 - 04:43 PM) *

no2pencil they are of dissimalar types.

you have 2 segments that are using wired Ethernet and you wish to connect those 2 segments going AP to AP they will just broadcast out there. one would have to function as a bridge to translate the wireless signal back to the wired ethernet protocol.

I would think you would have one functioning as a wireless router, offering IPS from the DHCP server, & the other would be a wireless access point, requesting an IP & having one assigned.

I'll read up some more on bridging. Thanks =-)
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post 5 Sep, 2007 - 03:34 PM
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Of course, at 300-400 meters, you'll be lucky to get a signal from the other router.
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post 4 Mar, 2008 - 12:59 AM
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I had this question/problem a few months ago and after many hours of painful research, I found a solution. First of all, to my knowledge you cannot use 2 or more routers on the same Wan or internet connection. What you need is 1 main router and the others will need to be 1 or more wireless access points. I learned very quickly that most good wireless AP's are somewhat pricey. There is 1 excellent solution to this problem and that is to convert a wireless router into a wireless access point. My personal choice for equipment is Linksys, I will not claim that Linksys is the best but this equipment has worked well for me in the past few years. The firmware in most routers is Linux based which therefore makes it open source, to an extent. This holds true for most brands of routers, not just Linksys. A few experts have created a firmware program to change many routers into access points. You can go here DD-WRT for the details and supported software list, and a link to download the correct firmware. Be sure to read ALL instructions first because otherwise you can end up bricking your router. The nice thing about this firmware is that you can buy one of the WRT54g or gs routers that are in every store or internet store for about $50 US and convert it into a $600 wireless access point. This access point can then be connected wirelessly to your router plus you also have 4 ethernet ports that can be used for any equipment that you need to connect to the internet or your Lan if needed. The DD-WRT software is available for most other routers, there is a huge listing of other suported routers at the above link. They will list the version needed and links to very detailed instructions on how to set it up.

This is not hackware and it is legal since almost all router firmware is written in Linux so I believe it is all open source. The people that have created this are based in Germany at the DD-WRT website.

I am not an expert by any means on networking but the experts here can provide details on network settings etc. far better than I can.

I am currently setting up a new network using the WRT600N 2 channel router with a few wireless access points and 2 of the new brother laser printers that each have built in wireless print servers. So far it has worked well except for a few connection problems which will hopefully be worked out soon. I can see the router from over 1 mile away so I believe it has some distance.
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post 4 Mar, 2008 - 01:05 AM
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I've been playing with the DD-WRT ... pretty neat stuff.
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