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Thoughts on open source, ???

For or against open source software
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markhazlett9

27 Jan, 2009 - 06:23 PM
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Alright everyone, I'm going to see Richard Stallman speak next week and as many of you probably know he is very radical for the open source software movement. I'm wondering, with you being a programmer, your thoughts on open source software. Are you for it? Against? or in the middle? Explain...

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no2pencil

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27 Jan, 2009 - 06:24 PM
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Yay Stallman!
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27 Jan, 2009 - 06:31 PM
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QUOTE(no2pencil @ 27 Jan, 2009 - 06:24 PM) *

Yay Stallman!



Now I agree with Stallman to some level... However, I don't think his theory would be totally functional... i mean open source software is good, but I can't see that many programmers programming for no profit.
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27 Jan, 2009 - 06:41 PM
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Open Source does not necessarily have to be free software.

I voted for...

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27 Jan, 2009 - 06:43 PM
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QUOTE(Nykc @ 27 Jan, 2009 - 06:41 PM) *

Open Source does not necessarily have to be free software.

I voted for...


But then again, how can someone make a profit with it?
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27 Jan, 2009 - 06:57 PM
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I voted for, as I believe in it, but I also strongly believe an individual or company should be able to build closed source software as well. Up to the individual or company...everyone has a choice. That's what I believe (I've done both), not what Stallman does. Saw him a few years ago...he reminded me of the aggressively drunken guy at any given bar...you're pretty sure he's not going to jump you, but you keep an eye on him anyway.
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27 Jan, 2009 - 06:58 PM
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You can include the source in the software bundle. Offer paid support, there are lots of ways one could profit off open source. Open Source and Free Software are two different models depending on the creators intent.

http://news.cnet.com/2100-7344_3-5216387.html

There are hundreds of strategies that you can incorporate to profit from Open Source.

Commercial Licensing especially.

BTW - that google bar in your sig needs to be a t-shirt.

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QUOTE(markhazlett9 @ 27 Jan, 2009 - 09:43 PM) *

QUOTE(Nykc @ 27 Jan, 2009 - 06:41 PM) *

Open Source does not necessarily have to be free software.

I voted for...


But then again, how can someone make a profit with it?

Support and maintenance.
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27 Jan, 2009 - 07:00 PM
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I voted for, as I use tons of open source projects, & even started one.

I've also sold a closed source piece of software that I required a software copyright for.
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27 Jan, 2009 - 07:02 PM
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I'm for open source code. Learning is great, everybody benefits (even if you're the one who'd benefit the most had you kept it non-open sourced).
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27 Jan, 2009 - 07:10 PM
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Commonly used libraries should be open source, applications (freeware and shareware/ the sort) should also be open source, but if you are selling it for money it should be paid software.

So, my ideology doesn't really fit into either category...
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27 Jan, 2009 - 07:15 PM
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Open Source.

I use open source as much as I can. I've written some in the past. A dinky little bootstrap program I wrote five years ago still ships on every Ubuntu CD; that's kinda cool.

I've seen a fair amount of proprietary code that's absolute crap. But no one expected anyone else to see it and figured the job was done "good enough." Open source, if nothing else, puts good enough under the scrutiny of many eyes. It's really hard to argue with that.

In historical terms, open source is the Renaissance; closed source is the guild system that stifled Europe for half a millennium.

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Interesting theories... considering maintenance is supposed to compromise the most profit.
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27 Jan, 2009 - 07:39 PM
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I think people should get paid for their good work.
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27 Jan, 2009 - 07:44 PM
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QUOTE(KYA @ 27 Jan, 2009 - 07:39 PM) *

I think people should get paid for their good work.



I see "Good" being bolded there
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27 Jan, 2009 - 07:48 PM
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Yup. Its the slight caveat that made me vote "Doesn't Matter" rather then yes.
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I think Open-Source is a huge movement, not just for software, but as an example of what can be accomplished collectivity instead of through competition. I think the more areas of the commercial sector and society could benefit from these ideas and examples of how collaborative efforts can yield products rivaling and even surpassing the quality of products developed through competition and profit motive.

As a programmer I intend to do a lot of work as open source, but at the end of the day I see myself developing closed source application as my main source of income. I think open source is a good concept, but I also think there are some applications better developed commercially, and I also think that the profit opportunity for open source projects is less than ideal.
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27 Jan, 2009 - 07:51 PM
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how collaborative efforts can yield products rivaling and even surpassing the quality of products developed through competition and profit motive.


I disagree, competition will spur the marketplace and provide better/faster solutions.
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But is that entirely true? If you consider the scope of some open source projects I would say that collaboration has almost surpassed competition in one sense. I do admit that these efforts will never surpass the profit motive, but considering the nature of the open source beast the fact that you can have a limitlessly large number of contributors fixes can almost be implemented with this software.

I do agree with you however KYA, I think that profit and competition ultimately win out. Most contributors that are worth their salt for these projects deserve to be paid, and that is why I still believe in closed source.
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Well thats a complicated question..

Because i am in the beginning of my programmer career, i am absolutely for opensource programs..

But i can not say, if it will change in future..

Generally os is a great thing, so everyone can use programs they need to use, without paying a big prize for it. I also think at the express editions form microsoft! Without these programs we would have a lot less programmers over all!

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