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Re: HTML 5 Specifications & Implementations Officially Released

Posted 10 July 2009 - 10:29 AM

Because as many of the browser developers are members of the World Wide Web Consortium you would think that maybe they should be focused on standards compliance.

Of course with Microsoft that is never the case, and they will never get it right - they never have.

Funny how all the "Other Browsers" render unreleased standards just fine.
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Posted 10 July 2009 - 10:37 AM

View PostMageUK, on 10 Jul, 2009 - 11:25 AM, said:

when they're focusing on getting old ones correct?


Oh, if only this were so! It's a nice dream.

Seriously, with the power of Microsoft, does anyone think they couldn't be the most standard's compliant browser on the planet? I mean, it's not like an entire OS upon which thousands of programs depend. The browser is a piece of software and Microsoft could probably have a new one written from the ground up faster than you can say Chrome.

There are only two conclusions as to the current state of IE. Either it's simply on the agenda to keep the quirks in and make sites break from one browser to the other. Or, the priority of actually fixing it is somewhere on the list under Windows 7 and trimming Ballmer's nose hair.
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Posted 10 July 2009 - 10:47 AM

I might be talking out my ass here but correct me if I am wrong. Microsoft or more particularly "Bill Gates" himself sent a memo to the design team for Front Page and ordered them not to focus on standards compliance. The reason for this was simply it would do one of two things.
1. Force people into keeping current versions of Front Page.
2. Force people to learn HTML or other WYSIWYG editors.

Microsoft as I stated before has several members on the W3C board.

They have always veered from the norm - JScript, VBScript, Active X, William Shatner I mean come on!
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Posted 10 July 2009 - 08:37 PM

Burn them. Burn them all.
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Posted 13 July 2009 - 07:14 AM

View PostMageUK, on 9 Jul, 2009 - 11:54 AM, said:

Well the problem with closing your tags in a HTML(4) environment is that it doesn't validate, I'm just wondering if HTML5 is more like HTML4 than XHTML, if so, I'll never use it as I previously mentioned.

come on man... f4uck validation! xD kidding

but do you prefer your site validate than use all benefits that the new language is bringing?

maybe the boss wants the site to validate (sh1t boss), but users don't matter with it, most don't even know that this exist.
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Posted 13 July 2009 - 07:17 AM

It's not about validation, it's about writing semantic code that makes sense.

Not closing tags is messy and I (as well as many other people) are uncomfortable with it.
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Posted 15 July 2009 - 03:38 AM

This thread is a joke, right? You point to an Editor's Draft and say "HTML 5 Officially Released". Even the current publish is only a Working Draft.

The call for implementations is in the Candidate Recommendation stage and HTML 5 is nowhere near that. A spec would be "official" after it gets to Recommendation which requires two complete implementations. I read somewhere that the schedule for that is 2022.

And for all the people talking about the death of XHTML: XHTML 2.0 is dead, but HTML 5 will feature two serializations: HTML5 (HTML) and XHTML5 (XML). The latter will be the successor to XHTML 1.0 assuming that Microsoft chooses to implement it.
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Re: HTML 5 Specifications & Implementations Officially Released

Posted 15 July 2009 - 04:54 AM

Even speaking about a working draft, its specifications and possible implementations are now available.

Yes, indeed it is still in the development stage but as of now, you can already test many of the new elements in various environments and try developing web pages using the specifications.

Note: Changed topic title to be less confusing.
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Posted 15 July 2009 - 05:51 AM

Just found this canvas demo, pretty awesome.
http://devfiles.myop...p_4_enemies.htm
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Posted 15 July 2009 - 10:20 AM

View Postgabehabe, on 15 Jul, 2009 - 04:51 AM, said:

Just found this canvas demo, pretty awesome.
http://devfiles.myop...p_4_enemies.htm

That's ace
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Posted 15 July 2009 - 10:28 AM

Hello Opera Early Adoption.
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Posted 15 July 2009 - 11:32 AM

I am really surprised that many of the new browsers already support the new functionality set. Even older ones are now on the edge of supporting HTML 5 through various plug-ins.
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Posted 15 July 2009 - 11:50 AM

<canvas> tag is pretty badass.
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Posted 21 July 2009 - 12:28 AM

FYI firefox 3.5 supports the video tag
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Re: HTML 5 Specifications & Implementations Officially Released

Posted 21 July 2009 - 07:46 AM

To be honest the more I dig into HTML 5, the more I like it.

<!DOCTYPE html>

<!-- So much better than having to type -->

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">


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