Karma Shop

Think of a mix of Game Maker And Visual Studio

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Re: Karma Shop

Posted 28 August 2009 - 08:01 AM

Now I'm really confused as to what you're trying to do. Is this just a new programming language? Is it a game maker thing? Are you trying to take all the software that's out there and take the good bits from each to make a jack-of-all trades thing?

You mention it has an audio editor and an image editor built in. What's wrong with using Audacity and photoshop/gimp for these? What makes your editor better than these?
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Posted 28 August 2009 - 08:09 AM

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It is an attempt for a jack-of-all-trades, Of course nothing is perfect.
We have already thought about that to, we know that some people would ask why not just use audacity or gimp? Our built in programs will have all the same features and more (believe it or not), also it will be built in so that it can run smoother and will be more easily acsesable (did i spell that wrong?). We have thought about every aspect, but there is still one thing we have to figure out, do we want a very simple and user freindly interface like Kodu just for windows, or something that gets its hands more dirty like visual studio?
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Re: Karma Shop

Posted 28 August 2009 - 08:24 AM

....Mkay. So what have you gotten done so far sir?
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Posted 28 August 2009 - 08:55 AM

@NeoTifa
we are still figuring out the actuall syntax of KSL, also we have 2 drafts of the design interface, one is more minamal and beginer/user freindly and the other is more advanced and very flexible. We still have much much to do but are going to take slowly but surely!
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Posted 28 August 2009 - 09:26 AM

So you're saying your audio/image editor is better than what is commercially available and specifically designed to do that editing?

If that's the case, why don't you package that and sell it giving Audacity and Photoshop a run for their money?
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Posted 28 August 2009 - 09:31 AM

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I said my image editor is better than GIMP not photoshop. Also I want it all included in Karma Shop so that the whole product is more appealing, If this gets popular enough I wont have to sell it, advertisers will begging to be on my website and ill make profit right there. and if your gonna ask if I have a website yet, I do, but it is such a peice of crap I suggest you spare yourself the eye burning that will come by looking at it. dont fear, i am working on building a MUCH better site at the moment.

(edit) oh yeah, audacity is free, so how could i give them a run for there money?

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Posted 28 August 2009 - 09:43 AM

Screenshots? I wanna see what you think it's gonna look like! ^__^
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Posted 28 August 2009 - 10:37 AM

@NeoTifa
as I said, since we cant decide which of the 2 designs we will use there arnt any screenshots yet, but we have designed it on paper I suppose I could take a pic of that and post it

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Posted 28 August 2009 - 10:44 AM

As long as the pic is of the "screen shots" on a wooden table go for it. :)
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Posted 28 August 2009 - 11:12 AM

Yea, that's what I meant XD
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Posted 29 August 2009 - 06:27 PM

ok, then, ill take some pics and post them soon
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Posted 01 September 2009 - 02:03 PM

ok well I decided to post what our BASIC idea for KSL will be, this is really in the early stages so it might suck really bad, but I think it is pretty decent... heres a hello world:


[begin;
[writeline
"Hello World";
[end{all;




ill post something that shows more of the language soon
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 10:35 AM

hello here is a little more of KSL...

//a simple for loop which will display
//the value of "i" until it reaches 10

[begin;
[for{int i=1, i<=10, i++
[if{i>5
(break
[now
writeline = "In the loop, value of i is {1}",i;
[end{all;

//determining if A is equal to B

[begin;
{int A=5
int B= 10
[if{A = B
writeline = "A equals B"
[else{A < B
writeline = "A is less than B"
[else{A > B
writeline = "A is more than B";
end{all;

//load graphics onto screen
//you will notice "bump_effect", this
//is a built in feature that allows
//the user to draw all graphics on the same spot
//and then bump effect pushes the graphics to left
//untile there is no grapgics in its way.
//the result would be a strip of 4 graphics next 
//to each other.also you may notice how it
//loads files, your program would run quicker
//if all content came from one folder.

[begin;
[load{
graphic01.bmp
graphic02.png
graphic03.jpeg(
C:\Documents and Settings\aegd\My Documents
graphic04.bmp(
C:\Documents and Settings\aegd\My Photos;
[display{
graphic01,
graphic02,
graphic03,
graphic04(
x/100 y/150((
bump_effect;
[end{all;

//in later updates there will be a content 
//folder like in visual studio.this will allow
//for quicker processing, less memory usage,
//but best of all, the program wouldnt have to
//be running on your computer only.


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Re: Karma Shop

Posted 08 September 2009 - 07:11 AM

So you have starting brackets but not ending?

How far up does the 'end{all;' go? To the a previous begin? How does scope operate?
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 01:31 PM

starting bracket is [ and ending is ;
it works like this, you can several commands in one code block a command starts with [ and the code block ends with ;
this symbol { specifies a more specific command within the main command and this symbol ( specifies a target file path
[end{all; ends EVERYTHING
[end; ends everything since th most recent [begin;
KSL is a language that may seem very diffrent at first but I assure you that it will offer many things other languages dont, it especially focuses on making it easier to display graphics how you want and quickly, it is meant for creating games mainly RPGs, considering its built in inventory battle features.
Karma Shop 2010 Beta 0.1 will come loaded with the KSL.net 0.3 language. We are aiming for the first beta to be released by christmas and the first full version to be released by spring. This will NOT be a console application, the first beta will look similar to text editor and will alow you to compile, run, save, open, and get help. The help file will be very large becuase I want it to be clear how to code from the begining.
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