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Want to buy a Graphics Card

Posted 27 April 2010 - 12:45 AM

I want a graphics card and I will buy nothing other that GeForce. Asus shall probably be it. Now I am looking for a card that has at least 512 MB of memory and 3D vision option. GeForce 9400 is among one of my choices as the later ones are out of my budget. My friend says that in 9400, if you enable 3D vision option, the game will run slow. What card is the cheapest that can run a game in stereographic mode (with 3D goggles) at a decent speed? It need not be 9 series, can be any other that matches my demands.

Moreover, on Asus website, they don't have an exhaustive list of features. It does not say anywhere if the card has 3D vision or not. Now as long as the card uses the graphics engine of GeForce 9400, will it have all the features mentioned on nVidia's website even if they are not mentioned on Asus' website?

In simple words, are the 9400 series cards by Asus capable of running games in 3D vision mode?

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Re: Want to buy a Graphics Card

Posted 27 April 2010 - 04:06 AM

hi i found this
http://www.nvidia.co...quirements.html

it say all 9 series and all 8 series support it for movies and almost all for games(not 9400). so i suggest you to buy better 8 series card then the shitty 9 series one. but i dont see the point in this like the 120 Hz monitor 3d ready i cant imagine how much will that cost

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Posted 27 April 2010 - 09:20 AM

Crap. My monitor does not support 3D vision. Should have thought earlier. Drop this thread here.
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Re: Want to buy a Graphics Card

Posted 27 April 2010 - 10:19 AM

still i suggest you get a better 8 series video card like 8800 then the shitty 9400 one. btw i think 9400 is integrated video card (in your motherboard) but i am not sure.

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Re: Want to buy a Graphics Card

Posted 28 April 2010 - 05:18 AM

When looking at Nvidia cards keep in mind that the first number is the generation, and everything after indicates basically how good the card is. 9400 is newer and might have a few more features than an 8600 but the 8600 will perform better.

Nvidia recently changed up how they number their cards, eg. gts 250 is basically an 8800.

9600gt is a decent budget card (I own two) that you can get for <$100.
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Posted 28 April 2010 - 09:16 AM

I am looking at something between $60 - $70.

Now that my monitor is not 3D ready, I am looking at any card with 512 MB to 1 GB. I don't think apart from this there is any good feature in cards within my budget.

@Tom9729, I don't understand how 8800 is going to perform better than 9400. Can you please explain?

I just want to play games like Assassins Creed at a decent speed and at decent graphics. I hope you can understand that. Then what card should I go for? 8 series or 9 series? Which are cheaper?
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Re: Want to buy a Graphics Card

Posted 28 April 2010 - 10:09 AM

View PostAutocrat, on 28 April 2010 - 11:16 AM, said:

I am looking at something between $60 - $70.

Now that my monitor is not 3D ready, I am looking at any card with 512 MB to 1 GB. I don't think apart from this there is any good feature in cards within my budget.

@Tom9729, I don't understand how 8800 is going to perform better than 9400. Can you please explain?

I just want to play games like Assassins Creed at a decent speed and at decent graphics. I hope you can understand that. Then what card should I go for? 8 series or 9 series? Which are cheaper?

The first digit of the card model indicates what series it is from. The 9400 is an entry level card and isn't going to be very good for playing games.

There are some 9400gt benchmarks here. Notice how in some of the benchmarks even the 8600 beats it. My gtx260 is almost twice as long as my old 6600gt.

Assassin's Creed 2 on a 9400gt plays very poorly.
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=iXKAgQJd2oE

On a 9800gt at max settings.
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=nmP9NvBHcRY

A little out of your price range but worth it.
http://www.newegg.co...3-186-_-Product

Before you buy a video card though
- Make sure your PC can support it. You have a PCI-E slot right?
- A slow CPU will make your games lag more than anything else. I upgraded to a dual core e5200 with a 2mb cache and suddenly I could play games that barely ran on my celeron D (eg. Mirror's Edge).
- Make sure your power supply can support the card you're buying. You'll want to have at least a 500w psu.
- Make sure you have room in your case. New cards (especially the higher end ones) take up a lot of space.
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Posted 28 April 2010 - 10:44 AM

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Nvidia recently changed up how they number their cards, eg. gts 250 is basically an 8800.


gts 250 is performance class of the new series of Nvidia so you my friend is mistaken. but i agree with you that 8800 is better then 9400 it is like to buy the new 210 and not 9800 GT (i own 1 it is fucking great :) ) absurd. when i was going to buy my i look very close at price and performance and i find that only 240 and 250 was better then asus 9800 GT 1GB ram and all of them support only DX10

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Re: Want to buy a Graphics Card

Posted 28 April 2010 - 10:50 AM

View PostNoBrain, on 28 April 2010 - 12:44 PM, said:

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Nvidia recently changed up how they number their cards, eg. gts 250 is basically an 8800.


gts 250 is performance class of the new series of Nvidia so you my friend is mistaken. but i agree with you that 8800 is better then 9400 it is like to buy the new 210 and not 9800 GT (i own 1 it is fucking great :) ) absurd. when i was going to buy my i look very close at price and performance and i find that only 240 and 250 was better then asus 9800 GT 1GB ram and all of them support only DX10

Whoops, my bad. Looks like it is actually a 9800gtx+.

http://www.anandtech.com/print/2731

Isn't the 210 a budget card?

Edit: My bad, misread your post.

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 03:08 PM

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I am looking at something between $60 - $70.
I can sell you my Vodoo 3500 for $65 :)
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Re: Want to buy a Graphics Card

Posted 29 April 2010 - 12:38 AM

View PostTom9729, on 28 April 2010 - 09:09 PM, said:

Assassin's Creed 2 on a 9400gt plays very poorly.
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=iXKAgQJd2oE

I can see speed in there but not good graphics.

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A little out of your price range but worth it.
http://www.newegg.co...3-186-_-Product

It is no doubt out of the budget but as compared to Asus, I think its really cheap and 9800! Wow!

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Before you buy a video card though
- Make sure your PC can support it. You have a PCI-E slot right?
- A slow CPU will make your games lag more than anything else. I upgraded to a dual core e5200 with a 2mb cache and suddenly I could play games that barely ran on my celeron D (eg. Mirror's Edge).
- Make sure your power supply can support the card you're buying. You'll want to have at least a 500w psu.
- Make sure you have room in your case. New cards (especially the higher end ones) take up a lot of space.

No problems. I have a Core2Quad Q8200 and PCI-E slots an x1 and an x16, the latter will most probably be used. Power supply cannot be that expensive. I don't think we need 500W, mine has 400W - 450W. My box is huge and has a lot of space.

View Postcalvinthedestroyer, on 29 April 2010 - 02:08 AM, said:

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I am looking at something between $60 - $70.
I can sell you my Vodoo 3500 for $65 :)

Oh, so I was actually missing that smiley face :bigsmile:
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Re: Want to buy a Graphics Card

Posted 29 April 2010 - 12:51 AM

Last question to Tom9729.

I am convinced that 9400 is introductory product and will not perform good so I give up the old cards (9400 etc).

New 9 series cards have DX11 as compared to DX10 in new 8 series cards.
New 9 series cards have 3D vision unlike new 8 series cards.

I have given up the demand for 3D vision already. Now should I go for DX11 or should DX10 serve me all right? Specially when it is the first time I am buying a card? Will games in future run on DX10? Will 8 series cards be soon outdated?

My mind is tilting towards 8 series. You mentioned the card by BFG tech but I am a bit brand cautious so I will probably go for Asus or ENO 3D

Asus does not have 8800 cards, it goes only till 8600 that means that in 8 series, they have only 256 MB memory maximum.

Can you give me options within my budget for 200 and 400 series?
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Re: Want to buy a Graphics Card

Posted 29 April 2010 - 01:17 AM

View PostAutocrat, on 29 April 2010 - 02:51 AM, said:

Last question to Tom9729.

I am convinced that 9400 is introductory product and will not perform good so I give up the old cards (9400 etc).

New 9 series cards have DX11 as compared to DX10 in new 8 series cards.
New 9 series cards have 3D vision unlike new 8 series cards.

I have given up the demand for 3D vision already. Now should I go for DX11 or should DX10 serve me all right? Specially when it is the first time I am buying a card? Will games in future run on DX10? Will 8 series cards be soon outdated?

My mind is tilting towards 8 series. You mentioned the card by BFG tech but I am a bit brand cautious so I will probably go for Asus or ENO 3D

Asus does not have 8800 cards, it goes only till 8600 that means that in 8 series, they have only 256 MB memory maximum.

Can you give me options within my budget for 200 and 400 series?

It's certainly your preference but I wouldn't worry too much about the brand, look for a good price but don't cut corners (make sure you get at minimum 256bit memory).

I don't know much about the new cards or DX10/11, sorry (I dual-boot Windows XP and Linux). If you want to stick to your price range then you probably don't have much of a choice but to go with an 8/9 series card. My advice would be to spend a little bit more for a really good card so that you don't have to upgrade for a couple of years, but that's your prerogative.

I went 8600gt => 9600gt => GTX260 in about 3 months because I wasn't completely satisfied. Would have saved a lot of money if I had just sprung for the more expensive card in the first place. :)
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Posted 29 April 2010 - 11:31 AM

a very nice site you show me there. when i look at this it remind me why i buy 9800 GT DDR5 with 3.4GHz Memory Clock on 240 is nice but when your processor is at 1.3GHz what is the point?

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Re: Want to buy a Graphics Card

Posted 01 May 2010 - 09:37 AM

View PostTom9729, on 29 April 2010 - 12:17 PM, said:

I went 8600gt => 9600gt => GTX260 in about 3 months because I wasn't completely satisfied. Would have saved a lot of money if I had just sprung for the more expensive card in the first place. :)

What would you say about GT 220? I was scanning the cards in 200 series and I found the latest one without 3D vision support (because I cannot avail that feature). This card has 625 MHz clock as compared to 576 MHz of your GTX 260. Do you think this would be even better than your card?
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