[monkeyC]

If you got into an argument with me IRL, I would gracefully adopt the stance that all my opinions and values were a result of my superior deductive ability, and that your differing views clearly reflect the lack of understanding of objective truth. In general; every opinion I have is a result of my being better, and anyone claiming otherwise is just plain stupid, or uninformed. I almost entered this mode when you guys started debating patriotism, and wanted to jump in belittling every misinformed member who dared to say that a flag was not to be used as a bathroom towel.

But let's just pause for a second, and say that my values weren't a result of having logically deduced truths. Let patrioticbehavior = singing national anthems . walking in crowds . raising flags . dressing up . joining parades where patrioticbehavior + conformistAttitudesInGeneral + optimisticOutlook +2kids +dog = HighProbabilityOfGroupBonding

Now, I can think of numerous reasons why group bonding is beneficial. It is a general fact that living in solitude increases risk of depression, heart attacks and suicide, and lowers the chances of getting laid, and there are a multitude of studies linking lotsa sexual intercourse to better health. Being with people improves your life in all of these aspects. Just doing stuff improves life, and creates memories/content, whether it is St.Patrick's day, or some other national day where you go out and have fun.

Then let's not forget the "keep threats out- perspective." In some countries, women are stoned to death, for being raped. They aren't allowed to drive cars. Imagine if such values would gain entry in our western world. As if the car manufacturers weren't outsourcing enuff already!! And could you imagine driving your kids to leisure activities and school and stuff yourself, when your wife could do it for you?

Both the gluing people together, and kicking a-holes out of groups, are solid, rational reasons for being more patriotic.

Still, I can't help but being very anti-patriotic, and I didn't have much wish to associate with fellow countrymen when I studied abroad. As a matter of fact, I would enjoy taking a dump on "my" flag, just to reinforce that feeling of being an outsider. So are we dealing with a case of CPU breakdown, or are we talking bout different OS flavors separating us? What about you? What do you like most about being patriotic/unpatriotic?

This post has been edited by monkeyC: 14 July 2010 - 06:52 PM

[no2pencil]

Dogma.

[supersloth]

you lost me two sentences in.

[no2pencil]

Sloth, you had me a hello. Xcept I think you said it more like 'fuck off', but you know, it still applies.

[dorknexus]

the part where you believe there is an objective truth is where you fail.

[taylorc8]

WHAT IS A PATRIOT?? I SUPPORT OUR TROOPS. buuurrp.

I think that's now my post.

--lost me half a paragraph in

This post has been edited by taylorc8: 14 July 2010 - 09:03 PM

[modi123_1]

monkeyC, on 14 July 2010 - 07:52 PM, said:

If you got into an argument with me IRL, I would gracefully adopt the stance that all my opinions and values were a result of my superior deductive ability, and that your differing views clearly reflect the lack of understanding of objective truth. In general; every opinion I have is a result of my being better, and anyone claiming otherwise is just plain stupid, or uninformed. I almost entered this mode when you guys started debating patriotism, and wanted to jump in belittling every misinformed member who dared to say that a flag was not to be used as a bathroom towel.

But let's just pause for a second, and say that my values weren't a result of having logically deduced truths. Let patrioticbehavior = singing national anthems . walking in crowds . raising flags . dressing up . joining parades where patrioticbehavior + conformistAttitudesInGeneral + optimisticOutlook +2kids +dog = HighProbabilityOfGroupBonding

Now, I can think of numerous reasons why group bonding is beneficial. It is a general fact that living in solitude increases risk of depression, heart attacks and suicide, and lowers the chances of getting laid, and there are a multitude of studies linking lotsa sexual intercourse to better health. Being with people improves your life in all of these aspects. Just doing stuff improves life, and creates memories/content, whether it is St.Patrick's day, or some other national day where you go out and have fun.

Then let's not forget the "keep threats out- perspective." In some countries, women are stoned to death, for being raped. They aren't allowed to drive cars. Imagine if such values would gain entry in our western world. As if the car manufacturers weren't outsourcing enuff already!! And could you imagine driving your kids to leisure activities and school and stuff yourself, when your wife could do it for you?

Both the gluing people together, and kicking a-holes out of groups, are solid, rational reasons for being more patriotic.

Still, I can't help but being very anti-patriotic, and I didn't have much wish to associate with fellow countrymen when I studied abroad. As a matter of fact, I would enjoy taking a dump on "my" flag, just to reinforce that feeling of being an outsider. So are we dealing with a case of CPU breakdown, or are we talking bout different OS flavors separating us? What about you? What do you like most about being patriotic/unpatriotic?

So you are telling us you hate being an outsider but your activities, attitude, and perpetual cycle of bullshit keep you that way so thus you must live up to it? Stellar. Here's your card.

Dark_Nexus, on 14 July 2010 - 09:57 PM, said:

the part where you believe there is an objective truth is where you fail.

I would go as far as saying the OP's belief s/he is the end all be all of objective truth - the bar so to speak - is the final fail-nail in that coffin.

This post has been edited by modi123_1: 14 July 2010 - 09:02 PM

[ShaneK]

I stopped reading when it became apparent that the OP was a jackass.

Right about here:

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If you got into an argument with me IRL, I would gracefully adopt the stance that all my opinions and values were a result of my superior deductive ability, and that your differing views clearly reflect the lack of understanding of objective truth.

Skimming through randomly it just seems like a bunch of anti-govt anarchist crap that's been repeated countless times already. The Dale Gribble of DIC.

Yours,
Shane~

This post has been edited by ShaneK: 14 July 2010 - 10:56 PM

[taylorc8]

wait wait wait, anti-=govt anarchist stuff?

I'm in.

[Valek]

ShaneK, on 15 July 2010 - 01:54 AM, said:

I stopped reading when it became apparent that the OP was a jackass.

Probably my favorite part of this thread, right here.

[Choscura]

Don't feed the trolls.

[dorknexus]

To salvage this thread I'd like to discuss a recent accomplishment.

If I concentrate really hard, I can bend my dick backwards and touch it to my asshole.

[alias120]

lol, wow dark_nexus

[Valek]

I think the best part is that this is the OP's 4th post and 1st topic at DIC, come to think of it.

[PsychoCoder]

I find it funny that if someone doesn't straighten up, tow the line, and abide by your morals and ethics (terms used loosely I assure you) then they're a jackass. I support our troops but in no way shape or form support these wars Bush got us into (Guess that makes me a jackass now too eh) and we need to be out of those countries like yesterday.

I seen someone ridiculed for their thoughts on the American flag and I found it just wrong. There are people who would seem intent to take away peoples rights to their own beliefs, which is one of the cornerstones of this country, one major thing that separates us from all other countries.

There are people who support the Militia (I for one think they should all be shot on sight, but that's just my feelings on it and no amount of ridicule will ever change that). I do not fly a flag outside my home, never have nor will I ever fly one (My father did 2 1/2 tours in Vietnam as a Seal and to this day he does not fly a flag outside his home either). Some take this as me being anti-patriotic but to you who say that you can kiss my fuzzy white ass.

The ones who think they have the right (or should have the right) to take away my rights as a US citizen are no better, in my eyes, than some of the dictators in the history of the world.