Oracle sues Google for using Java on Android.

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Oracle sues Google for using Java on Android.

Post icon  Posted 12 August 2010 - 07:17 PM

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I think this is a very dick move by Oracle. I'm also laughing at all the 'open-evangelists' that constantly cry about C# being closed and how "Java can be used by anyone!!!!11" So much for it being open, huh?

Regardless of my personal thoughts, I thought that Google circumvented the license by not using J2ME?

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Re: Oracle sues Google for using Java on Android.

Posted 12 August 2010 - 07:38 PM

*Rolls Eyes at Oracle*

Google got *more* people using Java on another platform (it's allowed me to use Java for mobile development at my internship), so I don't see why Oracle is suing. Honestly, I don't see Sun/Oracle putting as much support behind J2ME as Google does Android. The documentation for J2ME isn't great, which is different from Android. So if Google did get behind J2ME, that would be a good thing for Sun/Oracle as well in terms of marketing Java. Just my $0.02.
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Posted 12 August 2010 - 07:40 PM

I'm loving this, and that's all I have to say about that
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Posted 12 August 2010 - 08:02 PM

I actually agree with Oracle. Google should ask for permission when using other-party software. Did google get permission from the creator of Python to use it?
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Re: Oracle sues Google for using Java on Android.

Posted 12 August 2010 - 08:03 PM

1) Lol Oracle.
2) I thought that was all open source? The article is lacking in specifics.
3) I think it will end up with some kind of deal such that Google pays royalties, even if Google is in the "right."
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Posted 12 August 2010 - 08:07 PM

Agreed. Dick move. However, I'm pretty sure they aren't suing because they used Java. I had a feeling that once this was posted, it would immediately turn into a "HAHA, JAVA PEOPLE, HAHAH LOOK HAHA." thing. I was hoping I was wrong.
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Posted 12 August 2010 - 08:09 PM

Raynes just so you know my statement had nothing to do with laughing at Java or it's users, it was directed at Google :)
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Posted 12 August 2010 - 08:16 PM

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View Postheyoman1, on 13 August 2010 - 05:02 AM, said:

I actually agree with Oracle. Google should ask for permission when using other-party software. Did google get permission from the creator of Python to use it?


Guido Van Rossum, the creator of Python WORKS at Google.
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Posted 12 August 2010 - 08:17 PM

@PsychCoder Alright. I interpreted it wrong.

I wish that article was clearer on what exactly they are suing for. This sounds pretty similar to a particular lawsuit that Sun won against Microsoft many years ago.
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Posted 12 August 2010 - 08:46 PM

http://news.cnet.com...l?tag=cnetRiver
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Posted 12 August 2010 - 08:47 PM

View PostPsychoCoder, on 12 August 2010 - 10:40 PM, said:

I'm loving this, and that's all I have to say about that


So you are loving a company suing somebody else for using their open sourced platform. I guess Microsoft neededs to shutdown Codeplex.

So what's the point of open source?
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Posted 12 August 2010 - 09:13 PM

eclipsed4utoo actually I'm loving someone suing Google, and Microsoft can shut down CodePlex, it wouldn't affect me in any way
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Posted 12 August 2010 - 10:04 PM

Could you picture PsychoCoder and RMS in the same room together for an hour? There would be nothing left of them or that room.
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Re: Oracle sues Google for using Java on Android.

Posted 13 August 2010 - 12:39 AM

This little play of words pretty much sums it all up: "build it and they will sue". Sigh, it is a sad day. It's another classic example of corporate greed.

Look! They built something really good, they are even using our open and free tool... Wait a minute, we want a slice out of that money pie too!

Well, at least now I understand why IBM are using their own Java VM. Good way to avoid money trolls.

Bottom line is this: if you are so upset that you did not think of this first, why not come with a creative way to make money? There is a free advertising wave they can ride there for god sakes...
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Re: Oracle sues Google for using Java on Android.

Posted 13 August 2010 - 02:04 AM

Java was open before ORACLE Closed it recently! what will happen to PreOracle java users and softwares developed in java? I am scared the open source community could be bought n end up buying licenses!

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