[Christoph]

I think it's rather amusing that everyone is bitching of a fucking mosque being built at ground zero when we have THIS shit going on!

So go ahead and complain about the mosque, I'm more worried about these idiots trying to inject their beliefs into our government even more than is already in it.



Between 300,000-500,000 Attendees.
http://www.worthynew...onor-to-america

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Beck said what was happening at his rally had nothing to do with politics "and everything to do with God." The crowd, many clutching American flags, spilled from the Lincoln Memorial nearly a mile all way to the Washington Monument. "Something that is beyond man is happening," Beck said, said. "America today begins to turn back to God."

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The more than three-hour event often seemed like a religious revival, with Beck calling on the crowd to go home and "pray on your knees," with the door open for your children to see.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,600310,00.html

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We're running low on personal responsibility. We've got a loss of integrity, a loss of shame in this country, a loss of principles and values. We've lost our way because we have lost God.

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Saturday's message — shhh! It's a big secret. I've only talked about it for six months on one of the biggest cable news shows in history and the third largest radio show in America — but only six months, so — shhh, keep it down. Just between us. Don't tell anyone in the media: The secret is God.

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How many of us hope that the leader of the free world is currently making his decisions occasionally on his knees in prayer in the Oval Office?

What I am telling you is that you are the leader. Are you on your knees? Or is that just for someone else with real power to do? Because that's a perversion of our whole system. We, the people — it comes from you.

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Our Founders believe that they were born at a special time. They believe that each of them played a role. They believe and you know it, you can see it, through Divine Providence. All these people were assembled. It was amazing.

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We used to strive in this country to be a shining city on the hill. That's what the pilgrims came here for. That's what they thought this land was. It's what our Founders thought. Even 30 years ago — the shining city on the hill. Well, what is the shining city on the hill? Look it up.

It's the same story whether you call it Atlantis, New Jerusalem or Zion. It is the shining example of a place where people work together in peace and friendship and worship God and make things better together. Have we even been striving for that? Have we?

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If you think things are tough now, you ain't seeing nothing yet. I will show you the way out, next.

http://www.politicsd...housands-to-na/

[KYA]

And?

You can't be for one and against the other. That's hypocritical.

[Christoph]

How am I being for one and not the other?

The mosque isn't trying to change the nature of our intended government. This is.

[supersloth]

you can be for them having the right to have their rally well at the same time disagreeing with their proposed philosophy on government.

[KYA]

Christoph, on 29 August 2010 - 06:04 PM, said:

The mosque isn't trying to change the nature of our intended government. This is.

How?

I would argue that our government has always been this way.

You'll then pull out the Treaty of Tripoli.

Then I'll pull some quotes from the Founding Fathers.

Then you'll pull some quotes from the Founding Fathers.

Then we will then both continue on with having our opinions on the issue.

[Christoph]

Which should be obvious why religion and government should be separate.

Do you think the government should be allowed to tell you how to live and think? I doubt it, and neither do I.

This post has been edited by Christoph: 29 August 2010 - 06:13 PM

[KYA]

Never before in world history has a nation so quickly risen to power/prominence in such a short time span. I would ask the question, how did that happen? Technology? Work ethic? Divine intervention? Luck?

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Do you think the government should be allowed to tell you how to live and think? I doubt it, and neither do I.

No, but that's not the vibe I got from that rally at all.


Sidenote: Glen Beck is a Mormon, thus your hatred on Christianity is misplaced.

[dorknexus]

Mormonism is a derivative of Christianity.

[Christoph]

KYA, on 29 August 2010 - 05:18 PM, said:

Never before in world history has a nation so quickly risen to power/prominence in such a short time span. I would ask the question, how did that happen? Technology? Work ethic? Divine intervention? Luck?

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Do you think the government should be allowed to tell you how to live and think? I doubt it, and neither do I.

No, but that's not the vibe I got from that rally at all.


Sidenote: Glen Beck is a Mormon, thus your hatred on Christianity is misplaced.

So God created America. Genius.

Also, I know you can read, are just skipping that step?

http://en.wikipedia....nd_Christianity

[baavgai]

I'm aware of Beck and the Teabaggers. I just try to ignore them. They make me sad. Still, peaceful assembly is open to everyone.

KYA, on 29 August 2010 - 07:18 PM, said:

Sidenote: Glen Beck is a Mormon, thus your hatred on Christianity is misplaced.

??? Mormons are Christians. They're the worst kind, actually: missionaries.

[KYA]

No actually it's/they're not. Mormons and Christians are about the same as Christianity and Islam. i.e. None.

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Mormons also hold the Book of Mormon to be divine scripture, equal in authority to the Bible.

That in and of itself disqualifies them from being Christian. It is the equivalent of taking something Beth Moore or Max Lucado wrote and saying it is of equal authority as the Bible. I would wager to say Catholicism is also not Christian considering their additions to the Old Testament canon, but I think that is way too large of a digression for this thread.

edit: some parts of their doctrine that are in direct conflict with Christianity. In fact it's borderline Catholicism in many regards.

[Christoph]

Because they believe it is an extension of the Bible.

[KYA]

And if they believed in the Bible they would know that there is no extension of it. Gold plates in a hat that no one could see? South Park did a pretty good job with that episode.

[Christoph]

And if you used some sense you would realize there is no floating man in the sky that created two humans to produce the entire worlds population.

[Raynes]

What a disaster.