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should i draw out my pages

Posted 14 September 2010 - 07:39 AM

hey im just starting web and graphic design and well the only class im doing is intro to computers (BOOOOORING) i dont know much html and stuff so i thought about draw and coloring my themes on paper kind of like ideas of what i want the web page to look like. is that a good idea?


also will i be getting into drawing with a tablet and will i be able to make my own designs and what not with that?
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Re: should i draw out my pages

Posted 14 September 2010 - 09:54 PM

Sure. I find myself often sketching out wireframes for layouts or design ideas. Then taking that into an actual layout.

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Posted 15 September 2010 - 11:20 AM

I typically don't go about drawing them, I just use a graphics program like Gimp, Photoshop or Fireworks and get a general idea of how I want the page to look, then I follow that further until I get a final layout for a page (at which point I slice and code it). I just like to see what it will look like before it is done.
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Re: should i draw out my pages

Posted 16 September 2010 - 09:29 AM

View PostBetaWar, on 15 September 2010 - 10:20 AM, said:

I typically don't go about drawing them, I just use a graphics program like Gimp, Photoshop or Fireworks and get a general idea of how I want the page to look, then I follow that further until I get a final layout for a page (at which point I slice and code it). I just like to see what it will look like before it is done.


BetaWar, do people use html and css to start and build websites that way, or is the common thing to do designing and creating a website in a photo editor and then slicing it?

Also, can you explain the technique or link to a tutorial on this method of graphic design + slicing? Thanks
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Re: should i draw out my pages

Posted 17 September 2010 - 02:45 AM

Well I for one get an idea in my head of how I want my site to look and then build it from there. I never bother with drawing it first cause as my idea always changes and moulds as I go on.

What I do do though - especially for big sites is map it with a program called FreeMind (freeware). This way I can integrate with my design and I also prepare myself for all the extra functions (search fields, mail scripts, calendars) I'll be implementing.

When it comes to web design it's pretty much each to his own - I suggest (seeing as you have not really started with the good stuff in class) is to download a basic website template from the web and start messing around with it and see what style suits you best.

FYI: there is no better teacher than "doing" ;)
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Posted 17 September 2010 - 06:30 AM

I would tend to have an idea of what I want do mock-ups in image editor.
When happy with a design I would then decide how the best to proceed with
the html and css.
Some people will use a storyboard to layout the structure of the site
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Posted 20 September 2010 - 07:55 AM

I usually like to see what the site will look like once it's complete before I start coding.

So I use Photoshop to create a mock-up. Sometimes I will draw some wire frames on a piece of paper, but that's only in some cases.
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Posted 20 September 2010 - 10:21 PM

Personally, this is how I go about it:

1. Sketch out a wireframe or use an online Gliffy type layout tool
2. Then design based on wireframe ( you SHOULD learn to do this as clients won't be able to understand, "I have a great idea in my head" as they can't quantify it)
3. Then slice it and start your HTML/CSS development
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Posted 21 September 2010 - 08:28 PM

An hour of planning is worth hours and hours of headache in the future.
It's so easy to just sketch something out onto paper... I don't do any planning without a big pad of it and a pencil.
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Re: should i draw out my pages

Posted 22 September 2010 - 02:48 PM

I do one of two things:

  • Sketch on paper, both thumbnails and larger versions. Then, place them in a page layout program, and include EVERYTHING needed for that page: pics, text, etc. I quickly arrange them, then I go to work coding it afterward.
  • I make a template with a bunch of dummy text, and work off of that.

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 09:20 PM

View Postlupinthe3rd1, on 14 September 2010 - 06:39 AM, said:

hey im just starting web and graphic design and well the only class im doing is intro to computers (BOOOOORING) i dont know much html and stuff so i thought about draw and coloring my themes on paper kind of like ideas of what i want the web page to look like. is that a good idea?


also will i be getting into drawing with a tablet and will i be able to make my own designs and what not with that?


I would say it depends on what your comfortable with doing. For me I use gimp. There are plugin where you make the whole layout and you can then slice them or splice them so it's not one whole image but each element becomes it's own image.

Like I said I personally think it's easier to get a rough idea on the design and then go for it. You may at times need to make adjustments to the designs when problems occur. So I say there I bet no one in web design gets a 100% perfect design at the first attempt. It's more like a sculpture you got to mold the clay into something nice but you have a rough idea and start with the basics and work your way around the basics.

My suggestion is use a graphics tool and play around with it to try and get an idea. but like I said it's up to you on what's comfortable for you.
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Re: should i draw out my pages

Posted 22 September 2010 - 09:21 PM

I would use gimp or a graphics tool and plan the design out that way. I think it's better because it's faster to make adjustments when needed.
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