A programmer's pay

Average pay of an entry level programmer in your country

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A programmer's pay

Posted 05 January 2011 - 08:23 PM

Hey guys,

I was wondering what's the starting average pay of a programmer in your countries. In Malaysia, an entry level programmer with a degree would get paid about (Ringgit Malaysia) RM 1800 - RM 2400. About RM 3500-5000 for 2-5 years experience. This may not be 100% accurate but it's the average. Just to make you see what that's like, here is a comparison of prices;

Average meal in McDonald's: RM 10
A paperback novel: RM 36 (Average)
Programming book: RM 200 (Average)
HTC Desire(My current phone): RM 1,500 with a one year contract.
Intel Core 2 Duo MBP: RM 3,899
Toyota Vios: RM 70,000
Average price of property: RM 250,000 - RM 300,000

As you can see everything is pretty expensive compared to the pay. What's it like elsewhere?

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Re: A programmer's pay

Posted 06 January 2011 - 04:10 AM

This is likely to get more serious answers in the Cube. Moved.
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Posted 06 January 2011 - 04:33 AM

Generally you don't ask how much people make.

However i can assure you everyones answer is " Under Paid ".

And that is true. For the work that most of us do it can be very time consuming. Employer's generally don't have a clue of the difficulties that can become present when programming and don't realize that what they want done cant simply be done in 5 minutes.

My self i don't have a job in programming, i do know a few people who do and i always have my ears violated with the constant rambling about being underpaid. I get the occasional network set up and secure, but i think the most money in IT is in Networking and Database operators.

I'm from Australia but i can assume this is a global quote.
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Re: A programmer's pay

Posted 06 January 2011 - 05:31 AM

Well as in one other thread i will say that i`m sooooo under paid. However thats me. My brother on other hand gets 4 times my payment and that is great for him. Its the shitty firm i work for. He is game dev. so i guess its pretty well payed but still i get so little for the shit i do so its time for new job ;)

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 06:13 AM

I'm pretty happy with my rate as an intern, and if my estimations are correct or anywhere near I'll be satisfied with what I make here when I graduate. It's not all I want, but an ok start.
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Re: A programmer's pay

Posted 06 January 2011 - 08:53 AM

View PostDraps, on 06 January 2011 - 05:33 AM, said:

Generally you don't ask how much people make.


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I was wondering what's the starting average pay of a programmer in your countries

He/she wasn't asking how much people make, he/she was asking what the average pay was of a programmer in your country.

This post has been edited by Alex6788: 06 January 2011 - 08:54 AM

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Re: A programmer's pay

Posted 06 January 2011 - 08:58 AM

Average entry level salary for a programmer around my area, the southeastern United States, is about 40,000 US Dollars. I have no idea how the conversion works for your money, but I'm sure you can find a conversion online somewhere to see how it stacks up to the salary in Malaysia.
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Re: A programmer's pay

Posted 06 January 2011 - 10:43 AM

40K US Dollar ~ 122,804 Malaysian Ringgits

approximately 1/3 the value of the US dollar. Which seems right 1500 MYR for what is approx a 500 dollar phone (maybe a little less, we probably get better import prices)... that's 3 fold.


What it brings to question is the incomes he was describing (1800 - 2400). At what time scale is that? I hope that isn't yearly. Sounds like maybe weekly or bi-weekly.

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 06:18 PM

2400 RM is about 780 USD. That's got to be bi-monthly or less. If you want to know what people are making check out http://www.indeed.com/
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Re: A programmer's pay

Posted 06 January 2011 - 06:25 PM

That's most likely weekly pay. 780 x 52, since there are 52 weeks in a year, = 40560.
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Re: A programmer's pay

Posted 06 January 2011 - 06:57 PM

View PostAlex6788, on 07 January 2011 - 12:53 AM, said:

View PostDraps, on 06 January 2011 - 05:33 AM, said:

Generally you don't ask how much people make.


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I was wondering what's the starting average pay of a programmer in your countries

He/she wasn't asking how much people make, he/she was asking what the average pay was of a programmer in your country.


sorry bout that, just sort of slipped my mind while i was reading.
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Re: A programmer's pay

Posted 06 January 2011 - 09:22 PM

I'm not really bashful talking about how much I make. Although I won't tell you where I work.

I make ~60k US /year

I've been told average starting with a degree in CS is around ~55k so I'm right around average for being fresh out of college.

A master's bumps it up to low 70's I believe.

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Re: A programmer's pay

Posted 07 January 2011 - 04:57 AM

^That's right in line with the research I did when I was trying to decide between master's and second major. I went with master's.
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Re: A programmer's pay

Posted 07 January 2011 - 12:23 PM

That IS good for being fresh out of college. I didn't start making that kind of money til I'd had about 5 years experience. But that's CF work with no CS or similar degree. These days I get a couple of times that but that's nothing more than the value of experience and references who will vouch for your good work.

What's nearly as important to the OP is some kind of mention of tax rates. The first job I got after graduating paid $26K and my check was nearly exactly $700 (bi-weekly). Basically, between taxes, UI and such, I was getting just 70% of my pay...and $26K was nowhere near any kind of enviable tax bracket and I'd get a couple of grand (maybe) back as a refund. This year, I expect to pay at a rate of about 20% altogether once all is said and done.
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