[Tassaduq]

Hi this is my first post. I am making an application in C#. In which is use post and get functions to send variables of a form. eg a .php page. var1 = user var2 = password
I am able to get name fields from the website and use it to login and also manage cookies. but my problem comes when i get some field, which are correct but still don't get sing in. here is an example of a page http://forum.example...profile;u=15063 I can log in to this page easy, by using its field names i.e user and passwrd.
but here s an other page and when i use post method from my application i don't get sing in.
http://cstrike.examp...?showuser=81129
can any one tell me the difference b/w the submit buttons in both webpages. They should work alike but why dont they.
note i am not using webbrowser. I am using simple request to the servers. I even tried using variables in the url address of the browser but no luck.
I am gonna need all the help i can get.

[no2pencil]

Why would you post under html/css for a C# project?

We can't help you if you don't supply the code.

[Tassaduq]

no2pencil, on 18 January 2011 - 03:18 AM, said:

Why would you post under html/css for a C# project?

We can't help you if you don't supply the code.

Thanks for a fast reply. I have worked with C# it dont have any error the thing is i have never worked with post and get methods and dont know how they work. I only know how to submit variables on simple form using the web browser. Same thing is used in c#. I can login easy in the first site but i dont get loged in the second site, even y posting the variables in the browser. How do these buttons work. I have been working on it from 4 days with no luck.
I had read a forum about some tool in Firefox called temperer which can tell what the button do or how it forms data to be sent in the browser but i did not understand it.
I want to know how the both buttons work in both of the abouve sites?

[Tassaduq]

this is the first web page : http://forum.paintballcabarete.com/index.php?action=profile;u=15063
This is the second one : http://cstrike.vladislavovo.org/hl/forums/index.php?act=Login&CODE=00

Both the pages have login field. with different name first i fetch the name of the fields the i post them to log in, in c#. First one login's but the second one don't why?
eg of code

     string username = "Clarencervhx";
           string password = "gzVNhnDNwMGp"; 
           HttpWebRequest request = (HttpWebRequest)WebRequest.Create("http://forum.paintballcabarete.com/index.php?action=profile;u=15063");
           request.Method = "POST"; 
           using (StreamWriter writer = new StreamWriter(request.GetRequestStream(), Encoding.ASCII)) { 
               writer.Write("user=" + username + "&passwrd=" + password); 
           }
           HttpWebResponse response = (HttpWebResponse)request.GetResponse();

THIS RESULTS IN A SUCCESS.

this is for second site

     string username = "Clarencervhx";
           string password = "gzVNhnDNwMGp"; 
           HttpWebRequest request = (HttpWebRequest)WebRequest.Create("http://forum.paintballcabarete.com/index.php?action=profile;u=15063");
           request.Method = "POST"; 
           using (StreamWriter writer = new StreamWriter(request.GetRequestStream(), Encoding.ASCII)) { 
               writer.Write("UserName=" + username + "&PassWord=" + password); 
           }
           HttpWebResponse response = (HttpWebResponse)request.GetResponse();

THIS RESULTS as a Fail.

[no2pencil]

But for what language you using GET? In PHP the 2nd example will pull the variable showuser into the GET array.

<?php
echo $_GET['showuser']; // will display 81129
?>

So again, I'm not really sure why you posted this in HTML/CSS, & I'm not sure what you are trying to do since there is no code. I mean, I know what you are saying, but I'm not really following.

[Tassaduq]

OK now my question will be. How the pagese i have posted manage login? How and in what pattern do they send login info. If i know what they send via url for example i know the first website do it like this

http://forum.paintballcabarete.com/index.php?action=login2&user=Clarencervhx&passwrd=gzVNhnDNwMGp

but how do the other site do the login. If i know how it do it then so can i do it.
My main question is how do Browser manage these logins and what is needed to do it like the browser.

[no2pencil]

If it's pulled in a GET array, as the example you posted here, then it's server side code.

You can send it two variables, user & passwrd.

It will pull them in as :

<?php
echo $_GET['user']; // prints Clarencervhx
echo $_GET['passwrd']; // prints gzVNhnDNwMGp
?>

But anymore than this is impossible to know what the server does, without access to the PHP code.

[Tassaduq]

Have you seen the second site. I dont know where do the subit request goes. Is there a way to replicate the login process. I dont understand the difference b/w the both submit button in both sites.
How do we know what they are doing. They only submit two variables to the website. i know that the first one is using post. I second one i have tried to use get. I uploaded the variables also, but it all works for the first site only.

This site don't even say like user name not valid or any thing
http://cstrike.vladislavovo.org/hl/forums/index.php?act=Login

Can you look into the submit button of the above site, and tell how it is working.
I had used post and get functions before but i have never used submit buttons.

[Tassaduq]

no2pencil, on 18 January 2011 - 03:53 AM, said:

If it's pulled in a GET array, as the example you posted here, then it's server side code.

You can send it two variables, user & passwrd.

It will pull them in as :

<?php
echo $_GET['user']; // prints Clarencervhx
echo $_GET['passwrd']; // prints gzVNhnDNwMGp
?>

But anymore than this is impossible to know what the server does, without access to the PHP code.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tamper-data/

I am going to use this software to find out what is going on in the singin process. but i dont really understand any thig about those submit buttons

[Tassaduq]

Tassaduq, on 18 January 2011 - 04:26 AM, said:

no2pencil, on 18 January 2011 - 03:53 AM, said:

If it's pulled in a GET array, as the example you posted here, then it's server side code.

You can send it two variables, user & passwrd.

It will pull them in as :

<?php
echo $_GET['user']; // prints Clarencervhx
echo $_GET['passwrd']; // prints gzVNhnDNwMGp
?>

But anymore than this is impossible to know what the server does, without access to the PHP code.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tamper-data/

I am going to use this software to find out what is going on in the singin process. but i dont really understand any thig about those submit buttons

HI again I was able to take this info out of the site it is using GET in the following way

16:36:32.912[705ms][total 1274ms] Status: 200[OK]
GET http://cstrike.vladislavovo.org/hl/forums/index.php?&UserName=Clarencervhx&PassWord=gzVNhnDNwMGp&x=22&y=12 Load Flags[LOAD_DOCUMENT_URI  LOAD_INITIAL_DOCUMENT_URI  ] Content Size[-1] Mime Type[text/html]
   Request Headers:
      Host[cstrike.vladislavovo.org]
      User-Agent[Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2) Gecko/20100105 Firefox/3.6]
      Accept[text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8]
      Accept-Language[en-us,en;q=0.5]
      Accept-Encoding[gzip,deflate]
      Accept-Charset[ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7]
      Keep-Alive[115]
      Connection[keep-alive]
      Referer[http://cstrike.vladislavovo.org/hl/forums/index.php?act=Login&CODE=01]
      Cookie[session_id=75f28d1e66e6c16af0a229c59b2ddfed; ipb_stronghold=3b35578dcc64120a9241c89ff60da771; member_id=81129; pass_hash=be7fdcb75410996b9e7a29bffcb42477; coppa=0; anonlogin=-1]
   Response Headers:
      Date[Tue, 18 Jan 2011 11:38:46 GMT]
      Server[Apache/2.2.12 (Ubuntu)]
      X-Powered-By[PHP/5.2.10-2ubuntu6.7]
      Set-Cookie[pass_hash=be7fdcb75410996b9e7a29bffcb42477; expires=Tue, 25-Jan-2011 11:38:47 GMT; path=/; httponly
session_id=75f28d1e66e6c16af0a229c59b2ddfed; path=/; httponly]
      Content-Encoding[gzip]
      Vary[Accept-Encoding]
      Keep-Alive[timeout=15, max=99]
      Connection[Keep-Alive]
      Transfer-Encoding[chunked]
      Content-Type[text/html]

[Fungle]

I think this should be moved into the PHP Help forum, Or the ASP.NET forum, It does not fit in with the HTML and CSS forum very much.