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Re: C# under other then Windows?

Posted 18 January 2011 - 03:09 PM

View PostinsertAlias, on 18 January 2011 - 05:40 PM, said:

People have this horrible perception of MS as a profit-gobbling monster. But they're usually pretty forward thinking with their development technologies, and they're all about getting developers to use their stuff. You know why BASIC and later VB were so damn popular? Because they were CHEAP to develop with, compared with other options. And then consider that MS made CodePlex, and they release all kinds of stuff through there.


Actually, we are kind of lucky to have Microsoft. They are making hardware designers conform to standards. I don't know how many remember the good old days of DOS. When you purchased an software product, like Wordperfect, it shipped with about 100+ printer drivers alone. If there wasn't a driver for your printer you might not be able to print anything or the printer driver could be complete and utter crap. The same was true for video cards, sound cards, and games. You some times rolled the dice hoping that the game would work on your computer. Because Windows has standards and there exists the hardware abstraction layer, just about any hardware released will work with Windows. The reason many people experienced the fabled Blue Screen of Death is because their hardware isn't matching the software, driver corruption, etc.

Sorry for hijacking here.
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Re: C# under other then Windows?

Posted 18 January 2011 - 03:14 PM

View PostNoBrain, on 18 January 2011 - 03:57 PM, said:

i was talking about VS express edition


They release new versions of those with each full version of VS. So there are 2008 and 2010 express editions as well.

They really do a good job helping you develop for free with good tools.
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Re: C# under other then Windows?

Posted 18 January 2011 - 03:20 PM

@Kilorn - does java operate on the iphone/android/ipad environments?
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Posted 18 January 2011 - 03:23 PM

It does on android.

One thing that's neat about mono is they have Mono Touch and Mono Droid to use C# to build apps for iPhone and Android.
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Re: C# under other then Windows?

Posted 18 January 2011 - 03:26 PM

modi123_1, Android does not use Sun Java. They use an optimized version of Java called the Davlik Virtual Machine, and it uses Java code, however, the API will be much different. To my knowledge, it's not by choice that Java cannot be on Apple property. I think Apple forbade Java from it's devices. But, I am not positive on the last note and will have to check further.

Edit: Steve Jobs stated:
"Java's not worth building in. Nobody uses Java anymore. It's this big heavyweight ball and chain."

Even though that is completely wrong, it does mean that Java will not be implemented any time soon. That is one main reason why I will never support iCrap.
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Re: C# under other then Windows?

Posted 18 January 2011 - 03:28 PM

Is there a cross platform language, like java, that would work on the iPlatform?
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Re: C# under other then Windows?

Posted 18 January 2011 - 05:27 PM

View PostNoBrain, on 18 January 2011 - 05:57 PM, said:

i was talking about VS express edition


VS2010 Express

Just wondering...before you started this thread, did you do ANY research on your own? A very, very simply search for "C# Linux" would have given you the Mono project(it's the first result). A very simply search for "visual studio free" would have given you the Express website(it's the first result).

Microsoft gives away almost all of their development software for free(albeit limited compared to full versions). Visual Studio 2010(all languages), SQL Server, and Windows Phone Development tools can all be had by a simply download and install.

View Postmodi123_1, on 18 January 2011 - 06:28 PM, said:

Is there a cross platform language, like java, that would work on the iPlatform?


HTML? Does that count? HTML5? :crazy:
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Posted 18 January 2011 - 06:00 PM

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Is there a cross platform language, like java, that would work on the iPlatform?

C# using MonoTouch?
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Re: C# under other then Windows?

Posted 18 January 2011 - 07:11 PM

Oh.. pretty. Monotouch. Interesting. I was more looking at if I am going to make a heavy hitting web application (and I want to avoid using php, ajax, javascript, and css) is there something that is java-esque that I can run from a webpage but will function on the iPad?

Edit: that I can make without having to buy a mac mini.

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Re: C# under other then Windows?

Posted 19 January 2011 - 02:00 AM

View Posteclipsed4utoo, on 19 January 2011 - 02:27 AM, said:

View PostNoBrain, on 18 January 2011 - 05:57 PM, said:

i was talking about VS express edition


VS2010 Express

Just wondering...before you started this thread, did you do ANY research on your own? A very, very simply search for "C# Linux" would have given you the Mono project(it's the first result). A very simply search for "visual studio free" would have given you the Express website(it's the first result).

Microsoft gives away almost all of their development software for free(albeit limited compared to full versions). Visual Studio 2010(all languages), SQL Server, and Windows Phone Development tools can all be had by a simply download and install.

View Postmodi123_1, on 18 January 2011 - 06:28 PM, said:

Is there a cross platform language, like java, that would work on the iPlatform?


HTML? Does that count? HTML5? :crazy:

Yes i did however there was lots of guys that ware telling that they dont trust using C# under other platforms that is why ask you here. anyhow how much popularity mono have? do You think they use it a lot
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Posted 20 January 2011 - 09:07 AM

I think you can do 2 things:
1) Run your win program with a virtual machine eg. Wine
2) Compile your C# code with mono would do it :)
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Re: C# under other then Windows?

Posted 21 January 2011 - 07:39 AM

As I see it the Mono project has pretty good traction now and I don't see why you wouldn't trust it any less than the other cross-platform languages.

When it comes down to it, we put our trust in a whole lot of things all the way down our chosen technology stacks that can and do fail. I remember reading about how Intel shipped a CPU that would screw a particular type of floating point math operation.

I for one am confident that my programs will fail before Mono/.net does :)

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Re: C# under other then Windows?

Posted 15 April 2011 - 04:12 AM

I admit I have only skimmed this discussion but when talking about windows environment I didn't see anyone mention sharpdevelop.

If it hasn't already been mentioned it should have been -a fine open source alternative to VS.

I write a lot of instrument control software which I develop in VS, but when it comes to deployment on another PC and I want to do a few code tweaks in situ - I install sharpdevelop - no licence requirements and much faster to install than VS.

http://www.icsharpco.../opensource/sd/
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Re: C# under other then Windows?

Posted 15 April 2011 - 06:53 AM

C# Sourcecode can also be target to Javascript. Search Script#
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Re: C# under other then Windows?

Posted 15 April 2011 - 07:00 AM

http://projects.nikh...net/ScriptSharp

Now that is something I've never seen before. Looks cool.
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