New York Doesn't Believe in Excessive Internet Filters in Librarie

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New York Doesn't Believe in Excessive Internet Filters in Librarie

Posted 25 April 2011 - 05:21 PM

If you go to New York public libraries, you can view porn. And guess what? It's protected by the first ammendment, or so New York libraries argue.

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Under US law, all libraries that take federal funding only must install filters on publicly used computers to block content containing illegal obscenity and child pornography, and New York City officials say they comply to the letter.

If localities want to further restrict viewing, they must specifically enact a policy, although the move almost certainly brings with it legal challenges


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And what if you're a gender studies major, and you're writing a thesis on pornography? Or something. Cases like that are likely the infinitesimal exception to the rule that is creepy dudes without a home internet connection who just want to spend the afternoon watching porn, but censorship never quite sits right, even when it's something I probably wouldn't want my (hypothetical) little kids to see when I take them to the library to read Goodnight Moon.


So what do you all think? Is pornography in a public place, such as a library, a good thing? Should it be protected or censored just on library computers? What about people who bring in their own computers to use the library wi-fi? Another thing to consider are the viruses that could infect the library network.

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Re: New York Doesn't Believe in Excessive Internet Filters in Librarie

Posted 25 April 2011 - 05:44 PM

If people are going to look at adult subjects then it should be contained in an area by itself where kids or people who might be offended by it wont throw a fit.
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Re: New York Doesn't Believe in Excessive Internet Filters in Librarie

Posted 25 April 2011 - 05:45 PM

Why? The Man would advocate to avoid shit like this:

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Lying on his family room floor with assault weapons trained on him, shouts of "pedophile!" and "pornographer!" stinging like his fresh cuts and bruises, the Buffalo homeowner didn't need long to figure out the reason for the early morning wake-up call from a swarm of federal agents.

That new wireless router. He'd gotten fed up trying to set a password. Someone must have used his Internet connection, he thought.
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People should have the decorum to handle themselves in places like libraries and what not. Now bars... different story. Any new phone gets the porn test. Usually something from Sasha Gray's line. Good times. Odd looks. Plenty of dudes walking by, catch the action as we are comparing clarity and lag, who stop and feign interest in a piece of tech. Their wives, girlfriends, or dates see it as an interest in a new phone. We've gotten a shot or two out of the deal, and also educated someone on a new purchase. Notice how I didn't use "husband" or "boyfriend". If you stop to watch porn on someone else's phone in a bar you are just a dude, but I digress.

Ultimately if you are using their network you should be held to their rules. I have never had a problem asking a librarian to open up access for this that or the other when doing research. Then again I haven't done "internet research" at the library. That's for books and microfiche. No.. I take that back I did copy the Playboy with the Ayn Rand article in it many years back. What ever. Ask and you shall receive. In retrospect I should have written more fun papers on breast exams. Then I could loudly proclaim to the help desk I need access to boobs, breast implants, and the like. It's hard to work in boobs, penis, and vag on a paper related to combinatorics and graph theory. Damnit. Kids in school - learn from this guy - more fun papers to declare your intent of inspecting articles about boobs.

Now if you show up to the library with a gallon of Vaseline, your wide screen laptop, and your two terabyte external hard drive for a serious fap session out in public thaaaaaaaat's wrong.
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Re: New York Doesn't Believe in Excessive Internet Filters in Librarie

Posted 25 April 2011 - 06:00 PM

I don't see what's wrong allowing porn in libraries. There's really nothing to stop nudity, sex, et cetera. People even have sex in public places like buses, porn in a library is not even close to as boisterous as sex in public. Either way porn is everywhere and will be.
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Re: New York Doesn't Believe in Excessive Internet Filters in Librarie

Posted 25 April 2011 - 09:52 PM

Just because they can't doesn't mean they should be. That infringes upon public decency as well as parental rights on when they should determine the best time to have "the talk" is.
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Re: New York Doesn't Believe in Excessive Internet Filters in Librarie

Posted 25 April 2011 - 10:00 PM

eh, they probably weren't gonna talk to their kids anyway.
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Re: New York Doesn't Believe in Excessive Internet Filters in Librarie

Posted 25 April 2011 - 10:05 PM

View PostTMKCodes, on 25 April 2011 - 09:00 PM, said:

I don't see what's wrong allowing porn in libraries.

State funding shouldn't be used to allow homeless folks to get their rocks off.
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Re: New York Doesn't Believe in Excessive Internet Filters in Librarie

Posted 25 April 2011 - 10:06 PM

they aren't getting their rocks off, they are educating their hands about human anatomy.
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Re: New York Doesn't Believe in Excessive Internet Filters in Librarie

Posted 25 April 2011 - 10:07 PM

I think they are well diverse with the subject matter.
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Re: New York Doesn't Believe in Excessive Internet Filters in Librarie

Posted 26 April 2011 - 05:18 AM

If you are in a public place using a public computer you have to accept that others will see you and apply some common sense and social taste.

If you are in a public place, you have to accept you might see something someone is researching. If a film student is studying porn it could be a legit use. Or a criminology student studying gruesome murder scene photos. Personally I'd rather some kid saw pleasure than a shotgun blast to the face.

Putting some privacy angle filters on the monitors handles a host of issues.
Others don't see your porn, or your checking account details, or your email etc.
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Re: New York Doesn't Believe in Excessive Internet Filters in Librarie

Posted 26 April 2011 - 06:19 AM

View PosttlhIn`toq, on 26 April 2011 - 08:18 AM, said:

If you are in a public place using a public computer you have to accept that others will see you and apply some common sense and social taste.


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Incorrect. Don't you know that because of all the dumb ass, fucktard lawsuits over the years wherein someone claims they're being discriminated against or oppressed or their free speech rights violated by people rejecting whatever offensive, repellant shit they were doing...we now have to legislate down the smallest level what it is you can and cannot do? There IS no common sense anymore because "common" isn't good enough to dictate behavior. It's not enough to say "hey, quit being a goddamned pervert in public you sick fuck"...because if you do you're discriminating against their "lifestyle" and "oppressing" them...which is, today, apparently akin to skinning them alive it's so terrible.

This is just one of the inevitable effects of the slow erosion of community standards. Dudes jerking it in a public library and then claiming it's free speech.
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Re: New York Doesn't Believe in Excessive Internet Filters in Librarie

Posted 26 April 2011 - 07:02 AM

If they 'jerked it' in a public library then they're breaking a law and can be removed. Just because porn is accessible on a computer in a library doesn't mean people are allowed to 'jerk it' on premises.

A library also has a right to ask you to leave if you are disturbing the other people at the library. If they handle it poorly with a dumb/crazy person there is the chance it could spiral out of control, but with dumb/crazy people shit would most likely be spiraling out of control anyways. I see NO reason why my life should be censored because some crazy might take it the wrong way. If so then lets outlaw guns, heavy machinery, alcohol, and an assortment of other things crazy people abuse.

Just because something isn't censored doesn't mean everyone is going to do it all the time. We aren't censored from the use of the word 'Fuck', but if I go into a library and start saying it every other word, I'll be getting kicked out. And if I want to pitch a fit about it, I'd LOVE to meet the judge who would side with me that the 1st amendment allows me to yell 'fuck' in a library and not be asked to leave.

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Re: New York Doesn't Believe in Excessive Internet Filters in Librarie

Posted 26 April 2011 - 07:06 AM

You're not wrong. It kinda shows you what happens when you say just anyone is allowed to procreate.

But for some odd reason you can't legalize things like:
  • If you are a drug addict and broke your DNA, you can't reproduce or file lawsuits.
  • If you are on welfare because you couldn't keep a job as the night clerk of a 7-11 you need to be sterilized as a requirement for your handout check.
  • If you are a felon, you are sterilized upon prison intake.

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 07:10 AM

Regardless of what the laws are, viewing porn in public at a library where it may offend younger children is not socially appropriate.
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Posted 26 April 2011 - 07:20 AM

this law was made by politicians who want to take a nice long JIZZ outside their own network.

i doubt they thought that this law just might apply to PUBLIC school libraries. did anyone remind them that exposing minors to porn was illegal?? any library with kids would then be breaking that law, by allowing porn to be viewed.
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