Losing the faith

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Losing the faith

Posted 04 May 2011 - 07:07 AM

No. Not a religious topic. Well, in a sense, perhaps, but not fully.

Came across THIS about a man found crucified.

Police are trying to determine if it was a homicide or a suicide. Frrl.

Plz to be 'splainin how he managed to nail his second hand down?
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Re: Losing the faith

Posted 04 May 2011 - 07:11 AM

There's people who crucify themselves habitually. They usually have assistance, but they're willing participants.

There's actually an episode of House poking fun at these people.



The article sounds like it could go either way... violent crime, or religious zealot. Either way, they like accuracy to the canon of the story.

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Re: Losing the faith

Posted 04 May 2011 - 07:13 AM

I think the Romans are back.
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Re: Losing the faith

Posted 04 May 2011 - 07:13 AM

I think his point was...

How can it be suicide, how are the police even considering this, when he could not have nailed his own hand? It *has* to be murder by the very nature of the act.
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Re: Losing the faith

Posted 04 May 2011 - 07:16 AM

Willingly allowing yourself to be killed, or asking to be killed can technically be suicide. It depends on how the law is written, and that is a different country.

And I think B9 is a she...

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Re: Losing the faith

Posted 04 May 2011 - 07:17 AM

People can manage to do just about anything if they are determined/mad enough.

A nail-gun positioned correctly, wired to be set of by a twist of his head... or something along those lines.
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Re: Losing the faith

Posted 04 May 2011 - 07:17 AM

Assisted suicide. The classic Dr. Jack question.
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Re: Losing the faith

Posted 04 May 2011 - 07:20 AM

View PosttlhIn`toq, on 04 May 2011 - 10:13 AM, said:

I think his point was...

How can it be suicide, how are the police even considering this, when he could not have nailed his own hand? It *has* to be murder by the very nature of the act.


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Police had not ruled out murder or whether other people had helped Kim to kill himself
He had help to do it willingly or he was forced.
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Re: Losing the faith

Posted 04 May 2011 - 07:23 AM

Suicides are a hairy thing to investigate because there's a lot of technicalities. And it needs to be gotten right as it can completely alter several different after life processions.

Religious beliefs, insurance, rights to the body (is the body held/released depending on status of being evidence), etc etc.

When my brother passed it took the police a week to decide what to call the cause of death. There was no second party in the situation, yet they had 3 choices of which to define the act, and all 3 came with completely different out comes legally, w/ insurance, and the sort.
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Posted 04 May 2011 - 07:25 AM

If all choices being equally likely, I hope the police declared the one most beneficial or helpful for your family.
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Re: Losing the faith

Posted 04 May 2011 - 07:27 AM

read the last sentence.
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Re: Losing the faith

Posted 04 May 2011 - 07:29 AM

Depends on what you call beneficial.

Part of me would want it called 1 thing, and another part another thing, and yeah insurance money would be nice. But in the end, the title means nothing to the grieving family, it's all beurocratic. To us, our brother is dead.
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Re: Losing the faith

Posted 04 May 2011 - 07:29 AM

"Assisted suicide" is just another term for "willing homicide victim"
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Re: Losing the faith

Posted 04 May 2011 - 07:30 AM

Hmm.. well depending where you live the police might make it difficult adding insult to injury.

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Re: Losing the faith

Posted 04 May 2011 - 07:34 AM

not in the court of law. Words have much more stringent meanings in law. You may feel 1 way or the other, but that's not what they're investigating. They aren't investigating to sooth anyone's wounds, they're investigating to be in line with the law.

go beurocracy, it's a hoot.

View Postmodi123_1, on 04 May 2011 - 02:30 PM, said:

Hmm.. well depending where you live the police might make it difficult adding insult to injury.


Very true, here where I am the majority were as nice as the could be depending the situation.

I remember I had to block my father from punching the female officer delivering the message. She was not offended and was surprisingly willing to take the hit if need be. She was also there when my father passed and was actually expecting the same from me... I was furious that time around.

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