[narekm]

Hello there . Please could you tell me what IDEs are considered to be top IDEs for web development mainly for PHP ?
Thanks in advance!!!

[Gavisann]

I like Notepad++, but Dreamweaver is good as well.

[codeprada]

NuSphere's phpED is pretty good too. It has features such as a debugger and FTP upload.

[EnvXOwner]

I've seen this thread many times. Just to make it short. Take a look here or here.

My personal favorite is Aptana Studio 3. Do note that Notepad++ isn't an IDE, but a text editor. A very good one at that.

This post has been edited by EnvXOwner: 24 September 2011 - 08:11 AM

[KingCuddles]

Good discussion about the best PHP IDE here.

[Lemur]

VIM. All you need. IDEs slow you down and don't provide enough functionality to make them remotely useful at all. They're a crutch.

Working with Unix for the past 2-3 years has me doing a lot of work in command line only, and by which editing in vim. My speed has increased exponentially as my hands never leave the keyboard for anything other than a swig of MtDew.

[fromTheSprawl]

I use Notepad++ and Chrome. The only drawback of using them is I don't indent my code. Trying Netbeans now. I tried Aptana but when I tried to open a boilerplate the thing hanged.

[EnvXOwner]

You don't need the boilerplate. I use Aptana, but I write everything from scratch. I indent my code, whether or not it's in Aptana or Notepad++. Also Chrome really isn't an IDE. You should be using more than Chrome for testing a website. I use Chrome, Opera, Firefox, IE, and Safari. There are other browsers, but those are the most common ones.

[fromTheSprawl]

I use Chrome for testing and running the site, and Notepad++ for the actual coding. Yeah I probably really should start indenting codes wherever language I'm working on.

The thing is, still it's not a good impression when I try to load a basic template and the thing stops working completely. I uninstalled it after. Might the plugin for Eclipse be more reliable?

[Atli]

fromTheSprawl, on 30 September 2011 - 12:07 AM, said:

The only drawback of using them is I don't indent my code.

I don't get it. Why does using Notepad++ mean you can't/won't indent your code? I've written entire applications in Notepad++ and had no trouble indenting. It even helps by maintaining your current level of indentation when you create new lines.

[fromTheSprawl]

Atli, on 30 September 2011 - 12:35 AM, said:

fromTheSprawl, on 30 September 2011 - 12:07 AM, said:

The only drawback of using them is I don't indent my code.

I don't get it. Why does using Notepad++ mean you can't/won't indent your code? I've written entire applications in Notepad++ and had no trouble indenting. It even helps by maintaining your current level of indentation when you create new lines.

It's not can't or won't, more like a habit. That's why I'm going to break it now. Plus, I use the Notepad++ function where you can select whole segments of code then just press tab for them to indent, though the last times I did it I indented after everything was working.

Just uninstalled Netbeans, again, my PC failed me. Going back to N++.

[Atli]

Ahh I see

Are you having trouble with Netbeans? It's always been one of the more reliable IDEs for me.

Netbeans, by the way, can automatically indent/format entire files. Very handy when trying to decipher some of the poorly formatted code posted in the forums. Just paste it in, press ALT+SHIFT+F, and everything becomes understandable! Could be useful if you want to fix any of your old code.

[fromTheSprawl]

The problem is with the words "Five One Two", hope you get it!

I use Eclipse's formatter but when I even try to type one line on the thing my PC hangs. Because of those words. That's why I use N++ now for most of my Javascript and SQL stuff

[shoupc1]

Dreamweaver FTW!

[Atli]

Ouch. I definitely get that. Used to have the same problem on my old PC. Usually got the IDEs to work tolerably by just turning of the code completion feature. (Tools > Options > Editor > Code Completion, in Netbeans.)

shoupc1, on 30 September 2011 - 02:35 AM, said:

Dreamweaver FTW!

I used that one for a long time too. Even took courses on it at my old school. (For some reason my their idea of "Web Development 101" was nothing more than a very very detailed, and extremely dull, course on how to use the Dreamweaver MX GUI. Stupid, really. Became completely useless a few months later when the next Dreamweaver version was released.)

Having used the alternatives for years, now I find Dreamweaver nothing more than a mediocre HTML/CSS WYSIWYG tool (on account that it creates crap HTML) and a substandard coding IDE. (Pretty much all the alternatives have better tools, such as code completion, refactoring and debugging.) - It's one redeeming quality is the HTML and CSS code editors, which if one avoids the WYSIWYG side, are quite good. Not nearly worth dropping Netbeans or Aptana though, and not even close to being worth the price tag on it.

But that's just me. I'm a coder not a designer. I'm sure they have a different opinion on the matter. It's more a design tool than a coding IDE, after all.

This post has been edited by Atli: 29 September 2011 - 07:55 PM