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From QA to development.

Posted 25 September 2011 - 10:12 AM

Do you guys think after four+ years of exp in QA with a little knowledge of Java & C++, one can move to development?
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Re: From QA to development.

Posted 25 September 2011 - 10:45 AM

No.
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Re: From QA to development.

Posted 25 September 2011 - 02:25 PM

Do yourself a favor- hit hard on your language of choice first. Get to know it a lot better, then consider moving into professional development. It will make the transition a lot smoother. :)
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Re: From QA to development.

Posted 25 September 2011 - 03:29 PM

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When you know enough about the programming language your company is using, to carry on a conversation with the coders about the products you are doing QA on, then consider a shift.

If you can't ask something like: What's the relationship between this form and the database and the enumeration of the security levels? and understand the answer... If you can't rebuild the application you are doing QA on... or at least sub-sections thereof... then you're not ready.
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Re: From QA to development.

Posted 26 September 2011 - 08:39 AM

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There's the sticking point. A little knowledge is not enough. You need to be competent in a language to be a developer, not a beginner. That's not saying you can't learn what you need, it just means you're not ready for the prime time yet. Just like my several years experience driving on the highway doesn't mean I can jump into a F1 car and just learn as I go.
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Re: From QA to development.

Posted 26 September 2011 - 08:44 AM

Would you be trying to write a song after your 3rd lesson of learning the notes, before learning anything about chords or timing?

For now, just work on the lessons. Do a self-teaching book from cover to cover. Then consider writing a program.

Don't try to create a useful working program to fit a need of yours (or a for-pay contract) as your introduction to coding project. When you are learning to code you don't know enough to code a program, let alone know how to engineer the architecture of a program. It would be like saying "I don't know how to read sheet music, or play an instrument. I think I'll write a 3act opera as my first learning experience."

I don't say this to be mean. We've seen lots of new coders take this approach and we know it doesn't work. Trying to design your own programs before you understand the basics of the code language you've chosen just leads to problems, frustrations, and 'swiss-cheese' education (lots of holes).


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Posted 27 September 2011 - 06:33 AM

Thanks all for your responses. :)
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Posted 27 September 2011 - 05:41 PM

In my country, the answer is a "maybe". Some companies provide trainings that will really drill down programming knowledge on you in a span of a couple of days. I don't know if it's effective though.
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Re: From QA to development.

Posted 28 September 2011 - 06:10 AM

View PostfromTheSprawl, on 27 September 2011 - 06:41 PM, said:

In my country, the answer is a "maybe". Some companies provide trainings that will really drill down programming knowledge on you in a span of a couple of days. I don't know if it's effective though.


It's a ridiculous idea that you could teach someone to become a programmer in a couple days.
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Posted 28 September 2011 - 06:29 AM

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 06:35 AM

I hate those books. They fool people into thinking that they're going to become programmers with barely any practice.
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Re: From QA to development.

Posted 28 September 2011 - 06:36 AM

It was a sarcasm post based on Thilintoq's post.
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Re: From QA to development.

Posted 28 September 2011 - 07:01 AM

[sidebar]
I love how nobody gets the spelling of my name. I find it funny.
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The idea of TLH just rubs against humans. But in Klingon that's one sound. Like PH being the single sound of F in English. Basically a hard K like the composer Bach + L. Klingon = tlhInGan. tlhIn`toq sounds like McClintock without the Mc
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I now return you to your regularly scheduled bickering.

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Posted 28 September 2011 - 08:13 AM

You're lucky I even remembered the q.
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Posted 28 September 2011 - 10:46 AM

I find it funny nobody understands Klingon orthography when written in a Latin alphabet.
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