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Posted 18 October 2011 - 01:16 PM
Posted 18 October 2011 - 01:24 PM
This post has been edited by ishkabible: 18 October 2011 - 01:25 PM
Posted 19 October 2011 - 07:28 AM
Posted 19 October 2011 - 08:55 AM
This is not the same as saying that 'Chinese people are horrible', and this is the part where you have to pay fucking attention: Chinese culture is the problem, not Chinese people. The behavior of the people is only the symptom of the problem, but their ideas are it's source, and you can change their ideas. And Chinese culture isn't alone in this- there is nothing like exposure to a culture to show you the problems in it. And Chinese people can and have adapted, which is why in San Francisco, for example, there's a large Chinatown with a good reputation; because the people there, even the recent immigrants or first-generation Chinese Americans, have learned to adapt and have a community that helps them do this. However, in exactly the same way as a christian who de-converts is viewed as 'never really christian, otherwise why would he have left?', there are the same obstacles (at least socially) within Chinese culture. Sometimes these can be overcome (easy example: Chinese communism), but this isn't easy.
And for the record, there are a lot of things the Chinese have got right, my favorite example is probably their own weird mix of socialism and capitalism; nobody goes hungry, everybody gets food, a place to live, and an education, and everybody works, and there is plenty of room for the motivated people to succeed and make a lot of money, if that's what they want and are able to do.
Posted 20 October 2011 - 10:12 PM
It's sad for someone to witness something like that and keep going on their way doing nothing. I don't think I could sleep at night.
Posted 21 October 2011 - 10:19 AM
Posted 21 October 2011 - 11:06 AM
Absolutely disgusting; not only that two vehicles could run her over like that and do nothing, but also the nonchalant attitude of the people that simply walked past. To them the poor girl was no more than an obstruction!
PS: Please ignore duplicate post.
This post has been edited by RetardedGenius: 21 October 2011 - 11:12 AM
Posted 21 October 2011 - 12:48 PM
Don't tell me you still believe the line of shit about everyone being a beautiful unique snowflake. You saw the same video, you've probably seen the subsequent news story about the woman who helped that girl being forced to move because her neighbors said she only helped the girl in order to be famous; this is pretty clear evidence, not of personal or individual fuck-headedness (because if it was individual, only one person would be acting like an asshole here, rather than an entire group), but of something culturally wrong- you can even be generous and say "gee, maybe it's just one neighborhood, or just one city", and sure, that's possible; but this kind of behavior corroborates the 'gross generalizations' seen by everyone that's had to deal with this shit.
Why has this idea evolved, over time, to the state that it is now? Because Chinese culture pretty much expects people to be assholes to people they aren't associated with. There are of course other things which are better and look nicer for the tourists, and there are of course exceptions in the behavior of people (such as the woman who helped that kid! she was Chinese- but she was acting against the predominant views of her culture, and that's the whole problem!), and there are many exceptions in the ideas of people, especially Chinese people who have traveled or lived abroad and learned and used a foreign language (for example, every single Chinese person you have ever met and talked to outside of China). Change is possible, and it's certainly happening in comparison to what China was like 100 years ago (or more)- but to act like every culture is a beautiful snowflake that's just fine the way it is is simply wrong. If you can't accept this, if you can't even look honestly at it, then just keep down-voting me while you pretend that the sugar plum fairies are making everything better, because you're living in a fantasy.