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Damian Conway:- Temporally Quaquaversal Virtual Nanomachine

Posted 31 January 2012 - 03:50 PM

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Watched this and my mind was blown.

Temporally Quaquaversal Virtual Nanomachine
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Re: Damian Conway:- Temporally Quaquaversal Virtual Nanomachine

Posted 31 January 2012 - 07:13 PM

That was an awesome video and I still can't wrap my head around the anti-variables. I'm sure I'll be watching that again in the future when my brain re-solidifies.
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Re: Damian Conway:- Temporally Quaquaversal Virtual Nanomachine

Posted 31 January 2012 - 07:27 PM

Finally, an explanation of how to fix the blinking clock on my VCR.

Hey Beavis, he said Rod hehehe.

That is some deep stuff, definitely bookmarked till I get smarter :-)
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Re: Damian Conway:- Temporally Quaquaversal Virtual Nanomachine

Posted 01 February 2012 - 04:50 AM

Wow
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Re: Damian Conway:- Temporally Quaquaversal Virtual Nanomachine

Posted 01 February 2012 - 09:10 PM

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ok; I have just 2 questions.

1) how would I store an 'any' or 'all' value with say 4 billion options(like say testing 2^32 - 1 with his is_prime function)? what property would be measured and how many states with respect to this property can a particle exist in?
2) how the hell did implement the 'whilst' loop without the the piece of hardware to give zero time operations? that part seems like a joke to me

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I guess question 2 is useless though sense negative time operations(if the computer can predict our input does that mean we don't have free will?) only relay off of any and all values plus changing velocity I have no clue

I'm not even sure this was serious or not. It doesn't seem possible.

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what happens when you do this in a lazy language like Haskell? if you can't predict when the computation will happen what does your Feynman diagram look like?

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is this "Nerd Sniping"?

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Re: Damian Conway:- Temporally Quaquaversal Virtual Nanomachine

Posted 02 February 2012 - 12:42 PM

That was fun and hilarious to watch/listen to.

Here's a post talk with Damian Conway after the talk.

http://channel9.msdn...mming-Made-Easy


He explains that this code is actually running, but he's simulating the physics in his library to show that the theory of it actually works.

He's a very engaging teacher, I want to watch some more of his talks.

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Re: Damian Conway:- Temporally Quaquaversal Virtual Nanomachine

Posted 02 February 2012 - 05:31 PM

ya, I still don't get how he sped up the "whilst" loop; I get the basics of how he emulated the positronic variables but I lack the understanding of how he was able to speed up a whilst loop; I want to know that hack even if it isn't actually changing the space time orientation of anything.
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Re: Damian Conway:- Temporally Quaquaversal Virtual Nanomachine

Posted 03 February 2012 - 07:39 AM

If I was going to guess at it, I'm going to guess that each time it loops upward it remembers the results of fib so that it's already pre-solved for ya when you get to the next value... no recursive calling as those are done.
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Re: Damian Conway:- Temporally Quaquaversal Virtual Nanomachine

Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:00 AM

ya, memorization would make sense but it's not really emulating what he described at all :/
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Re: Damian Conway:- Temporally Quaquaversal Virtual Nanomachine

Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:17 AM

Well I think you were spot on before about it being mostly for fun.

And possibly even nerd sniping.

I kind of took it as a fun lecture about the theoretical possibilities and how to possibly create simple tools that take advantage of complex ideas if/when said complex ideas become available.
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Re: Damian Conway:- Temporally Quaquaversal Virtual Nanomachine

Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:49 AM

Ya, it was definitely fun; His goal was to make people think and I think he really hit the nail on the head with that. He even said at the beginning that it wasn't going to be a very practical topic.
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