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Re: DEA "forgets" student in holding cell

Posted 04 May 2012 - 09:58 AM

View Postwordswords, on 04 May 2012 - 11:46 AM, said:

It doesn't sound likely. Maybe it is a hoax, or just bad reporting? I haven't heard of 'rawstory.com' before.


note the video in the article was from NBC San Diego.

And the story can be found on cnn, huffington, yahoo news, fox news, and more with a simple search:
https://www.google.c...ing+cell+5+days
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Posted 05 May 2012 - 12:12 PM

I do wonder how many of the American news networks actually check the sources thoroughly. Often it seems they will carry sensationalist stories without fact checking. If it was on Reuters then I'd be more impressed regarding the authenticity. I just sent a message to my BBC news journalist friend, who is going to give his opinion on it shortly.
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Posted 05 May 2012 - 12:14 PM

Cause your friend is more trustworthy than 15 independent news organizations.



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oh and here's your Reuters for ya:
http://www.reuters.c...E8421AC20120504

And how about BBC:
http://www.bbc.co.uk...canada-17930812

Or if you like trashy British news companies... the Daily Mail:
http://www.dailymail...o=feeds-newsxml

You ever hear of google? It's pretty quick at getting those kinds of results.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 12:19 PM

View Postlordofduct, on 05 May 2012 - 12:14 PM, said:

Cause your friend is more trustworthy than 15 independent news organizations.


I don't have a very high opinion of the American press, so I would say he probably is.

Thanks for that Reuters link though. I did google for it, but didn't find it..
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Posted 05 May 2012 - 12:35 PM

work on your google-fu

all it took was: "Reuters dea cell 5 days"




And you may have low trust in US news organizations... but I bet you we know more about what happens here than your buddy at BBC would.

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Posted 05 May 2012 - 02:03 PM

wordswords: Have you been watching Fox or CNBC? they don't count as news.
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Posted 05 May 2012 - 07:53 PM

View Postwordswords, on 05 May 2012 - 02:12 PM, said:

I do wonder how many of the American news networks actually check the sources thoroughly. Often it seems they will carry sensationalist stories without fact checking. If it was on Reuters then I'd be more impressed regarding the authenticity. I just sent a message to my BBC news journalist friend, who is going to give his opinion on it shortly.



Even the most minimal effort on your part would have cleared this up for you. There's a difference between skeptical and obtuse: simply disbelieving what you read because it seems unlikely is not skepticism, it's idiocy.
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Posted 06 May 2012 - 10:35 AM

View Postjon.kiparsky, on 05 May 2012 - 07:53 PM, said:

View Postwordswords, on 05 May 2012 - 02:12 PM, said:

I do wonder how many of the American news networks actually check the sources thoroughly. Often it seems they will carry sensationalist stories without fact checking. If it was on Reuters then I'd be more impressed regarding the authenticity. I just sent a message to my BBC news journalist friend, who is going to give his opinion on it shortly.



Even the most minimal effort on your part would have cleared this up for you. There's a difference between skeptical and obtuse: simply disbelieving what you read because it seems unlikely is not skepticism, it's idiocy.


The American press have a worldwide reputation for sensationalism and not checking the facts. Perhaps you might not know this. This isn't a dig at America in general. It's something you would know if you worked for a news broadcaster such as the BBC.

The mistake I made is not being skeptical about American press sources, but instead not finding the articles when I googled for them. So this is one of those 'BUT YOU DIDNT GOOGLE IT' type arguments which are quite common on technical forums.
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Posted 06 May 2012 - 10:47 AM

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 01:26 PM

View Postwordswords, on 06 May 2012 - 12:35 PM, said:

The mistake I made is not being skeptical about American press sources, but instead not finding the articles when I googled for them. So this is one of those 'BUT YOU DIDNT GOOGLE IT' type arguments which are quite common on technical forums.


Considering that by the time you were posting about the unreliability of the American press, the officials involved had held a press conference to acknolwedge that this had taken place and to apologize for it, I don't think it's so much an issue of you not googling it. You didn't really have to google anything, it was more a matter of reading a newspaper. Apparently it even made the Daily Mail, as Dylan points out. It's more you not bothering to read the news before wising off about it.

And why do you single out the American press as unreliable? What I hear on the BBC (most recently, about the Leveson inquiry) makes me think the British press is not without a bit of the old makey-uppy once in a while.
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Posted 06 May 2012 - 03:20 PM

View Postjon.kiparsky, on 06 May 2012 - 01:26 PM, said:

View Postwordswords, on 06 May 2012 - 12:35 PM, said:

The mistake I made is not being skeptical about American press sources, but instead not finding the articles when I googled for them. So this is one of those 'BUT YOU DIDNT GOOGLE IT' type arguments which are quite common on technical forums.


Considering that by the time you were posting about the unreliability of the American press, the officials involved had held a press conference to acknolwedge that this had taken place and to apologize for it, I don't think it's so much an issue of you not googling it. You didn't really have to google anything, it was more a matter of reading a newspaper. Apparently it even made the Daily Mail, as Dylan points out. It's more you not bothering to read the news before wising off about it.

And why do you single out the American press as unreliable? What I hear on the BBC (most recently, about the Leveson inquiry) makes me think the British press is not without a bit of the old makey-uppy once in a while.


I've said all I'm going to here. I can't be bothered to argue with you Jon. Half the threads I see you 'contribute' to here, is you jumping in on an argument and repetitively stating your arrogant point until the 'opposition' gets tired and just leaves it. Then when you 'win' you get voted up by other 'experts' who you vote up in turn. I don't think that is much of a life, and I hope you have something else going for you, I really do.
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Posted 06 May 2012 - 03:44 PM

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Posted 06 May 2012 - 04:12 PM

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View Postwordswords, on 06 May 2012 - 05:20 PM, said:

I've said all I'm going to here.


Why is this line always followed by more text?
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Posted 06 May 2012 - 05:44 PM

uh oh... I upvoted you. The grand conspiracy continues!
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Posted 06 May 2012 - 05:54 PM

View Postlordofduct, on 06 May 2012 - 07:44 PM, said:

uh oh... I upvoted you. The grand conspiracy continues!


'cause, like, you and me, we're thick as thieves, yeah?
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