And if they have no problem beating you, it makes sense that you should be able to beat them. Works both ways.
(and no, I'm not trying to put a negative association on what supersloth said. I'm trying to say cops shouldn't be surprised by the all mighty 'do unto other as you would want done unto you' to bitch smack them every once in a while)
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#62
Re: 75 Years in Prison For Videotaping Police
Posted 16 May 2012 - 03:02 PM
it would be pretty awesome if you got to challenge any arresting officer who was getting a little too handsy to some good ole fashioned fisticuffs.
#63
Re: 75 Years in Prison For Videotaping Police
Posted 16 May 2012 - 03:23 PM
lordofduct, on 16 May 2012 - 04:42 PM, said:
And if they have no problem beating you, it makes sense that you should be able to beat them. Works both ways.
(and no, I'm not trying to put a negative association on what supersloth said. I'm trying to say cops shouldn't be surprised by the all mighty 'do unto other as you would want done unto you' to bitch smack them every once in a while)
(and no, I'm not trying to put a negative association on what supersloth said. I'm trying to say cops shouldn't be surprised by the all mighty 'do unto other as you would want done unto you' to bitch smack them every once in a while)
They're not surprised by it. They know exactly how to deal with it, too: they call in backup and beat the hell out of you and add "assaulting an officer" and "resisting arrest" and whatever else they can think of to the charges.
#64
Re: 75 Years in Prison For Videotaping Police
Posted 16 May 2012 - 05:18 PM
A guy told me a story about his son getting caught drinking under age at a party. He ran out a door when he figured out cops where there, hit a cop in the face with the door on the other side and got assaulting a police officer even though he didn't know the policemen was behind the door.
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#65
Re: 75 Years in Prison For Videotaping Police
Posted 16 May 2012 - 06:37 PM
Well he shouldn't have ran then.. duh.
#66
Re: 75 Years in Prison For Videotaping Police
Posted 16 May 2012 - 07:48 PM
Ya, it just seems stupid that for a total accident he would get such a harsh charge.
#67
Re: 75 Years in Prison For Videotaping Police
Posted 17 May 2012 - 06:24 AM
That's just human nature with a badge though. If I was a cop and got smoked in the face by a front door, by some drunk kid trying to run from a party, I'd be fucking pissed and I'd probably try to add that to the charges I was bringing him in for too. Not saying it's right necessarily, but it's not surprising.
#68
Re: 75 Years in Prison For Videotaping Police
Posted 17 May 2012 - 06:46 AM
No one said it was surprising... saying it's stupid.
#69
Re: 75 Years in Prison For Videotaping Police
Posted 17 May 2012 - 06:56 AM
Bah.. he knew the police were there (that's why he was fleeing the scene of a crime)... if he would have stayed put it would have assaulted the officer coming into the house. That whole "Stop! Police!" is not only for your safety (they would be distraught if you twisted your ankle) but for theirs.
Of course that's dealing with an officer on foot. As my old buddy Raoul Duke had a different view of dealing with the high way police.. Duke once said - "Few people understand the psychology of dealing with a highway traffic cop. A normal speeder will panic and immediately pull over to the side. This is wrong. It arouses contempt in the cop heart. Make the bastard chase you. He will follow. But he won't know what to make of your blinker signal that says you are about to turn right. This is to let him know you're pulling off for a proper place to talk. It will take him a moment to realize that he's about to make a 180 degree turn at speed, but you will be ready for it. Brace for the g's, and fast heel-toe work. ".
Of course that's dealing with an officer on foot. As my old buddy Raoul Duke had a different view of dealing with the high way police.. Duke once said - "Few people understand the psychology of dealing with a highway traffic cop. A normal speeder will panic and immediately pull over to the side. This is wrong. It arouses contempt in the cop heart. Make the bastard chase you. He will follow. But he won't know what to make of your blinker signal that says you are about to turn right. This is to let him know you're pulling off for a proper place to talk. It will take him a moment to realize that he's about to make a 180 degree turn at speed, but you will be ready for it. Brace for the g's, and fast heel-toe work. ".
#70
Re: 75 Years in Prison For Videotaping Police
Posted 17 May 2012 - 07:34 AM
#71
Re: 75 Years in Prison For Videotaping Police
Posted 17 May 2012 - 07:45 AM
Well...
I was pointing out no one said they were surprised. They said 'stupid'.
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Ya, it just seems stupid that for a total accident he would get such a harsh charge.
I was pointing out no one said they were surprised. They said 'stupid'.
#72
Re: 75 Years in Prison For Videotaping Police
Posted 18 May 2012 - 07:28 AM
http://en.wikipedia....cas_(drug_lord)
Yet he gets like... five... Discuss.
The fact that videotaping officers is considered illegal reminds me of the stanford prison experiment.
Truthfully, it's hard to honestly trust law enforcement for one thing the prison experiment highlighted. Some people tend to let their powers get to them for whatever reason and therefore abuse it.
Yet he gets like... five... Discuss.
The fact that videotaping officers is considered illegal reminds me of the stanford prison experiment.
Truthfully, it's hard to honestly trust law enforcement for one thing the prison experiment highlighted. Some people tend to let their powers get to them for whatever reason and therefore abuse it.
#73
Re: 75 Years in Prison For Videotaping Police
Posted 18 May 2012 - 08:04 AM
aaaaaaaaand this is why I disagree with the "record me all the time just don't access it unless I say so" bit... once they have the data government entities just HAVE to take liberties with it..
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The U.K. government is haemorrhaging data — private and confidential citizen data — from medical records to social security details, and even criminal records, according to figures obtained through Freedom of Information requests.
Just shy of 1,000 civil servants working at the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP), were disciplined for accessing personal social security records. The Department for Health (DoH), which operates the U.K.’s National Health Service and more importantly all U.K. medical records, saw more than 150 breaches occur over a 13-month period.
And all this comes to light no more than a fortnight after the Queen formally announced the U.K. government will monitor all Web and email traffic, and log all landline, mobile phone, and Skype calls.
The U.K. government is haemorrhaging data — private and confidential citizen data — from medical records to social security details, and even criminal records, according to figures obtained through Freedom of Information requests.
Just shy of 1,000 civil servants working at the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP), were disciplined for accessing personal social security records. The Department for Health (DoH), which operates the U.K.’s National Health Service and more importantly all U.K. medical records, saw more than 150 breaches occur over a 13-month period.
And all this comes to light no more than a fortnight after the Queen formally announced the U.K. government will monitor all Web and email traffic, and log all landline, mobile phone, and Skype calls.
#74
Re: 75 Years in Prison For Videotaping Police
Posted 18 May 2012 - 02:03 PM
Has anyone used this? It seems like.. well.. a damn large leap forward. Sure..sure.. tell me you are not storing that shit now but when the ball gets going they might come with an upgrade to retain images in certain cases.. people who have been 86'd.. known minors attempting to get in, robber photos.. etc.
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Francisco. "Once the data is triggered, the images are overwritten, deleted, gone. There are no tapes. cite
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On Friday afternoon, about 20 bars around San Francisco are set to have special "facial detection" cameras turned on as part of a new smartphone app by Chicago-based startup SceneTap.
The cameras, which are mounted above the door of their client bars, scan patrons’ faces as they enter and exit the bar. The company’s software then immediately determines whether the person is male or female, and counts how many of each are in the bar, divides that by the known capacity of the bar, and then outputs something like: "Crowd: >90% full | Women: 58% | Men: 42%."
San Francisco bar patrons are unlikely to know that their faces are being scanned, however—the company has only put SceneTap stickers in the windows, but does not explain to customers in an obvious way what exactly is going on.
SceneTap has already been around since last summer in other cities around the country, including Chicago, Austin, Bloomington, Athens, Gainesville, and Madison in around 400 bars.
The cameras, which are mounted above the door of their client bars, scan patrons’ faces as they enter and exit the bar. The company’s software then immediately determines whether the person is male or female, and counts how many of each are in the bar, divides that by the known capacity of the bar, and then outputs something like: "Crowd: >90% full | Women: 58% | Men: 42%."
San Francisco bar patrons are unlikely to know that their faces are being scanned, however—the company has only put SceneTap stickers in the windows, but does not explain to customers in an obvious way what exactly is going on.
SceneTap has already been around since last summer in other cities around the country, including Chicago, Austin, Bloomington, Athens, Gainesville, and Madison in around 400 bars.
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The company has painstakingly tried to explain to the public that what it’s doing is facial detection, rather than recognition, as it simply is scanning faces to determine gender and is not comparing that data to other known facial data.
"Here’s the thing—there are no videos or images stored at any time," wrote the company’s CEO, Cole Harper, in an open letter to San
"Here’s the thing—there are no videos or images stored at any time," wrote the company’s CEO, Cole Harper, in an open letter to San
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Re: 75 Years in Prison For Videotaping Police
Posted 18 May 2012 - 02:41 PM
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Hey, I saw you at the bar last night...
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