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Modern 'Coders at work'

Posted 15 May 2012 - 05:45 AM

So I have been reading this book 'Coders at Work'. It is an book by Peter Seibel who interviews the 'giants' of programming. The book is a good read and is insightful. But it is about guys (and a girl) who started programming in the 60's and 70's. Don Knuth, Josh Bloch, Brendan Eich, Guy Steele, Jamie Zawinski, and others.

who would you consider to be part of the leading edge of programming today? What are they doing and what have they done?

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 05:50 AM

Are you going to narrow that down to a specific area (medical, consumer products, space, defense, telecom, music, robotics, etc), or is this just a name dropping free-for-all?
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Posted 15 May 2012 - 06:10 AM

this can be a free for all. I am sure there are brilliant people out there that didn't start on Fortran. (not that there is anything wrong with that). maybe those who are under 40 years old.
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Re: Modern 'Coders at work'

Posted 15 May 2012 - 06:26 AM

Mark Zuckerberg. Look what he created, and how it has changed life.
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Re: Modern 'Coders at work'

Posted 15 May 2012 - 07:19 AM

View PostKilorn, on 15 May 2012 - 08:26 AM, said:

Mark Zuckerberg. Look what he created, and how it has changed life.



Damn - didn't actually mean to down-rep that. In the words of Nicholas Parsons, I will try to redress the balance on a future post. (can we please move the "quote and reply" away from the rep, for those clumsy among us?)

But no, Zuckerberg didn't actually do anything interesting. His product was just the one that took off. He's a yob who got lucky.
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Re: Modern 'Coders at work'

Posted 15 May 2012 - 07:27 AM

There... evened it out.
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Posted 15 May 2012 - 07:28 AM

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He's a yob that created a product that he thought could be successful and it turned out to be a lot more successful than he could've ever imagined. Yea, he got lucky, but he still created it. It's not like he rolled his face across the keyboard and Facebook's codebase was what was created. Whether we like as individuals like the product or the entity that created it is irrelevant, the fact is, he took something that could've been a nice little social website for colleges, and went worldwide with it and it changed the way the world keeps in touch.

EDIT: As for the negative rep, it's no big deal. I'm not going to get my panties in a bunch because of some irrelevant number on a forum online. hahaha

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Re: Modern 'Coders at work'

Posted 15 May 2012 - 07:48 AM

View PostKilorn, on 15 May 2012 - 09:28 AM, said:

He's a yob that created a product that he thought could be successful and it turned out to be a lot more successful than he could've ever imagined. Yea, he got lucky, but he still created it. It's not like he rolled his face across the keyboard and Facebook's codebase was what was created. Whether we like as individuals like the product or the entity that created it is irrelevant, the fact is, he took something that could've been a nice little social website for colleges, and went worldwide with it and it changed the way the world keeps in touch.



But what did he create? Social networking sites were a known category, and you had a number of contenders, all of them with approximately the same ideas, and his got critical mass. If there's any reason why his took off instead of the others, it's not because of the code, it's because of the visuals and the feature set - marketing, not programming.

As for Zuckerberg as a coder, I don't think there's anything that he's responsible for in the code that you'd really say is very impressive. It's not like Jobs or Gates, who actually showed their chops before they moved to running their companies. I'll give Zuckerberg credit for chutzpah, sure. And opening up Facebook as a platform was a clever sort of a trick, very Tom Sawyer. But what's Zuckerberg supposed to have done as a programmer that's worth mentioning?


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EDIT: As for the negative rep, it's no big deal. I'm not going to get my panties in a bunch because of some irrelevant number on a forum online. hahaha


I feel the same, but it's still weird when someone hits that red button... I always think "what the hell was that about?" No harm done, anyway. (thanks, modi)
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Posted 15 May 2012 - 07:51 AM

I think Zuckerberg could be on the list. I'm more impressed with sinapse (similar to Pandora) than I am with facebook.
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Re: Modern 'Coders at work'

Posted 15 May 2012 - 08:27 AM

View Postjon.kiparsky, on 15 May 2012 - 10:48 AM, said:

it's because of the visuals and the feature set


Would the feature set not be a result of the code he had to write in order to get the site functioning?
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Re: Modern 'Coders at work'

Posted 15 May 2012 - 08:29 AM

Here.. if you are having problems finding people I have this handy dandy list.

This is a list of programmers notable for their contributions to software, either as original author or architect, or for later additions.
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Re: Modern 'Coders at work'

Posted 15 May 2012 - 08:31 AM

View Posttime4f5, on 15 May 2012 - 08:51 AM, said:

I think Zuckerberg could be on the list. I'm more impressed with sinapse (similar to Pandora) than I am with facebook.

i love comparing apples and oranges too.

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Re: Modern 'Coders at work'

Posted 15 May 2012 - 09:00 AM

View PostKilorn, on 15 May 2012 - 10:27 AM, said:

View Postjon.kiparsky, on 15 May 2012 - 10:48 AM, said:

it's because of the visuals and the feature set


Would the feature set not be a result of the code he had to write in order to get the site functioning?


Sure. But what makes you think any of it is any good, or written by Zuckerberg?
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Posted 15 May 2012 - 09:08 AM

Steve Chen, Chad Hurley, Jawed Karim founders of youtube.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youtube
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Re: Modern 'Coders at work'

Posted 15 May 2012 - 09:22 AM

View Postsupersloth, on 15 May 2012 - 08:31 AM, said:

View Posttime4f5, on 15 May 2012 - 08:51 AM, said:

I think Zuckerberg could be on the list. I'm more impressed with sinapse (similar to Pandora) than I am with facebook.

i love comparing apples and oranges too.


I'm not really comparing apples and oranges. Just looking at fruit.
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