Microsoft is at it again with their shady, downright unethical choices

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 03:34 PM

That's the weird bit. I can usually tell where Asian people are from, including Koreans, just by looking- although the fashion trends in the last 10 years or so make it more difficult (eg, there's a fad for looking 'Korean' here right now, so that throws it somewhat). But allowing for that, and the fact that I can only speak maybe 20-30 words in any Asian language besides Thai, I can usually accurately guess if somebody is japanese, chinese, vietnamese, thai, etc. I can even get the local hill tribes right a good portion of the time. I get it wrong sometimes, especially if it's an unsual look for a region- I know Chinese Malaysians, but I've never once guessed that one of them was from Malaysia- But the Korean clone throws me; it's so bad that, for example, one particular picture of a close friend who's a clone, standing next to somebody he knew (who's also a clone!), takes me a few minutes to differentiate almost every time I see it. It doesn't help that they're both intentionally making "Kim Il Suk" faces at the camera, but it shouldn't have as much of an effect as it does.
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Posted 31 July 2012 - 03:55 PM

PSY looks like a Korean clone of my Cuban friend Rene...

give em' a tan, a bit of stubble, and put him in a trashy American dance club... and there you go.
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 02:21 PM

Not to defend MS, but let me put the question to you: How would you go about making sure that your OS is running on a secure machine and not in a virtual machine where a malicious host has full control over the registers being used by your OS? Would you start doing little timing tests and see if some operations are taking longer than "normal" and therefore warn the user that machine may not be secure? What if your OS really is running in a VirtualBox and the user really wanted it there? Have a checkbox saying "I know. Don't bug me again?"

As I see it, MS is just adding another layer to defense in depth for trying to keep its OS secure from attack that takes advantage of the newer processors' abilities to run VMs without the software in the VMs knowing that they are running in a VM.

Or is this all a non-issue? If an attacker has successfully taken control of the machine and installed himself in the hypervisor role, are all bets off, so don't even bother adding a layer of defense for that case? Just let him sit in the background and watch all those delicious credit numbers go by.

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 02:26 PM

View Postlordofduct, on 31 July 2012 - 03:36 PM, said:

"Waaaah, Microsoft is evil because if I buy their product and want to modify it to my likings I have to take an extra 60 excrutiating seconds out of my time to do so... waaaaaah, how tyrannical!"

It's as if though they have never used Linux before BIOS supported booting off cdrom. Grow a pair.

Ubuntu sure has create some spinless complainers.

** Edit ** Also, this topic was brought up last year.
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 02:56 PM

LOL!!! "spinless" ... "before BIOS supported booting off cdrom" ...


I don't know if the use of the misspelled word "spinless" was a deliberate or not, but it made me laugh!
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Posted 01 August 2012 - 05:51 PM

View PostSkydiver, on 01 August 2012 - 05:56 PM, said:

LOL!!! "spinless"


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Posted 02 August 2012 - 12:58 PM

You would think the only company that would prevent users from using their hardware the way they want would be Apple.

My solution: get a Mac, install Windows and Linux alongside OSX, and enjoy. Now I just need to find $2,000 or so.

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 01:02 PM

View PostAVReidy, on 02 August 2012 - 12:58 PM, said:

You would think the only company that would prevent users from using their hardware the way they want would be Apple.

My solution: get a Mac, install Windows and Linux alongside OSX, and enjoy. Now I just need to find $2,000 or so.


Don't they have an app for that? Something called "Nigerian Prince" or something like that...
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Posted 03 August 2012 - 09:48 AM

View PostAVReidy, on 02 August 2012 - 01:58 PM, said:

.. Now I just need to find $2,000 or so.


Or you could just build a budget machine out of parts that aren't stupid and put Linux on that and save yourself a grand a half.

I'm going to try actually building a laptop sometime for Linux.

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 03:48 AM

Good idea, champ.
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Posted 04 August 2012 - 01:22 PM

But the budget machine doesn't look like those pretty machines they have on TV and the movies...

On the other hand, I don't look like those pretty people on TV and the movies using those pretty machines. Budget machine, here I come!
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Posted 14 August 2012 - 12:52 PM

I know it might be a bit late in the life cycle of this thread to make a comment, but I simply couldn't resist the temptation. Microsoft became great by stabbing all of it's friends in the back. Amidst the victims (the high profile ones, at least) were IBM, Netscape, and now all of it's hardware partners. Not ripping of an editorial in wired at all.
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Posted 20 August 2012 - 01:49 PM

It's because Ballmer is in charge :)

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 02:01 PM

View Postdenting5, on 14 August 2012 - 02:52 PM, said:

I know it might be a bit late in the life cycle of this thread to make a comment, but I simply couldn't resist the temptation. Microsoft became great by stabbing all of it's friends in the back. Amidst the victims (the high profile ones, at least) were IBM, Netscape, and now all of it's hardware partners. Not ripping of an editorial in wired at all.


Thanks for reviving a dead thread to inform us of 15-20 year old news about Microsoft.

Cause you know a bunch of computer nerds who learned most of the their computer knowledge during the 80's and 90's when said things were happening don't have the capacity to recall such super secret info.

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 02:09 PM

I would extend that further and thank who ever posted that Jobs vs Ballmer video. I almost had enough time to forgot what tortured pieces of editor-raped video look like since I turned off the soft core version on the major news networks.
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