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Windows 8 (actual release) is available to MSDN subscribers.

Posted 15 August 2012 - 05:18 PM

So, I've grabbed my copy of Windows 8 (and VS 2012), and installed it on my PC. Has anyone else done so? With the actual release version, not the RC or the Previews?

So far, I'm impressed with the snappiness, and the driver support right out of the gate. Other than that...I haven't had time enough to really form an opinion.
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Re: Windows 8 (actual release) is available to MSDN subscribers.

Posted 15 August 2012 - 06:39 PM

We are talking about release PREVIEW right?
Its not final release yet is it?
http://windows.micro...oad/?SignedIn=1

Or do you have a link for final release?
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Re: Windows 8 (actual release) is available to MSDN subscribers.

Posted 15 August 2012 - 06:47 PM

Nope, I'm talking about the RTM, RTW, whatever the hell you want to call it. If you're a paying MSDN subscriber, you can download Windows 8 and VS 2012 right now.

Proof:

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MSDN links are a bit screwy, so I can't link directly to it.
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Re: Windows 8 (actual release) is available to MSDN subscribers.

Posted 15 August 2012 - 07:13 PM

I have to say Windows 8 has horrified me. The interface is completely counter intuitive, and it confuses anyone I've ever seen touch it. Microsoft is trying to reinvent things again, and is failing as per its alternate versions tradition (ME - Horrid, XP - Great, Vista - Horrid, 7 - Great, 8 - ...?)

I see this as trying to simplify things and instead making them substantially more complicated. It's my personal goal to be well away from the blast radius when it hits end users full force, because I can imagine the nightmarish calls to tech support.

I see Windows 8 as Microsoft's biggest gaff. If Mac were to slash its prices in half at the release and keep them down while people migrate, I could honestly see a shift of power. (That being said, I despise Mac. BSD/*nix for life.)
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Re: Windows 8 (actual release) is available to MSDN subscribers.

Posted 15 August 2012 - 07:24 PM

My company is an MSDN subscriber. I'll start it downloading in the morning. Thanks.
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Re: Windows 8 (actual release) is available to MSDN subscribers.

Posted 15 August 2012 - 07:40 PM

Sommma bitch... I let my gold membership lapse for budget reasons. Cest la vie.

Windows 8 isn't too bad.. I've been doing training on app dev (the only one on my team because I am *that* guy)... Of course I was promised a machine with more than 3gb of RAM and not XP but we'll see how that goes.

Over all not too worked up about it... now our systems guys might have a different story to tell about maintaining it but hey.. that's not my job. Ha!
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Re: Windows 8 (actual release) is available to MSDN subscribers.

Posted 15 August 2012 - 07:43 PM

View PostLemur, on 15 August 2012 - 09:13 PM, said:

I have to say Windows 8 has horrified me. The interface is completely counter intuitive, and it confuses anyone I've ever seen touch it. Microsoft is trying to reinvent things again, and is failing as per its alternate versions tradition (ME - Horrid, XP - Great, Vista - Horrid, 7 - Great, 8 - ...?)

I see this as trying to simplify things and instead making them substantially more complicated. It's my personal goal to be well away from the blast radius when it hits end users full force, because I can imagine the nightmarish calls to tech support.

I see Windows 8 as Microsoft's biggest gaff. If Mac were to slash its prices in half at the release and keep them down while people migrate, I could honestly see a shift of power. (That being said, I despise Mac. BSD/*nix for life.)


I've heard a lot of people who have spent an hour or two using it (or less, just from screenshots and blog articles) say stuff like this. I'm not going to say that it's completely wrong, but the longer you use it, the more intuitive it starts to get. I've been using the release preview for a while now. The release tightens up a few loose ends, but other than that is pretty much the same. And I have to say, there's a whole lot of incredible improvements. Search that goes across every application that implements the searching API. Settings, the same thing. Completely consistent hotkeys across all metro-style apps for common tasks!

Yes, there's a huge transition. Yes, lots of people will miss the start menu. Yes, lots of people won't like the metro start page (though it's really no big deal, just pin the desktop applications you want to use to the start page, and treat it like a giant, more capable start menu). The hardest thing for desktop users to get used to will be hot corners. I'll admit, it took me a while to figure out how to shut down. But once I got it, it stuck.

I realize that these are all issues they'll face. But to me, this is Ribbon 2.0. A lot of people will bitch. Power users, mostly. While the average person gets used to it (or doesn't know enough to compare it to previous experience). And you'll have people years from now saying how bad an idea it was, while the general population is happily using it without a problem.
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Posted 15 August 2012 - 07:53 PM

I'm more worried about supporting it than anything.
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Re: Windows 8 (actual release) is available to MSDN subscribers.

Posted 15 August 2012 - 08:02 PM

Meh.. that's the deal with anything new.. eventually you'll get over the hump and it'll be okay. Change is the only constant and what not.
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Re: Windows 8 (actual release) is available to MSDN subscribers.

Posted 16 August 2012 - 07:46 AM

Am I just blind?
I see Team Foundation Server for x86 and x64
Remote tools for both x86 and x64
But I don't actually see VS Pro 2012 for x64, just x86
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Re: Windows 8 (actual release) is available to MSDN subscribers.

Posted 16 August 2012 - 07:48 AM

They haven't released an x64 version of VS 2012, or even 2010 for that matter.
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