[aloneprogrammer]

Yes this is true today's programmer can't do what other do.There are many programming language but they built on C or on DENNIS RITHIES'S Shoulder and C is on Asm so someone can create asm which can create language which directly generate binary,can someone make things appear o monitor or create colours from ground-up without using anything all from scratch,etc....

[NecroWinter]

It sounds like you dont like the fact that modern programmers dont reinvent the wheel (by designing everything from the ground up), if they did, how would it be innovative?

[CharlieMay]

aloneprogrammer, on 15 September 2012 - 11:38 AM, said:

Yes this is true today's programmer can't do what other do.There are many programming language but they built on C or on DENNIS RITHIES'S Shoulder and C is on Asm so someone can create asm which can create language which directly generate binary,can someone make things appear o monitor or create colours from ground-up without using anything all from scratch,etc....

I have a set of colored magic markers that I've discovered will do just that, does that count?

[BenignDesign]

aloneprogrammer, on 15 September 2012 - 11:38 AM, said:

can someone make things appear o monitor or create colours from ground-up without using anything all from scratch,etc....

You make the monitor from scratch - without using any existing technology. I'll get started on this creating new colors bit.

[Arceopteryx]

BenignDesign, on 15 September 2012 - 10:44 AM, said:

aloneprogrammer, on 15 September 2012 - 11:38 AM, said:

can someone make things appear o monitor or create colours from ground-up without using anything all from scratch,etc....

You make the monitor from scratch - without using any existing technology. I'll get started on this creating new colors bit.

Geez. That is some project. I guess he is right. I wouldn't know where to start, when it comes to creating new colors.

[Ticon]

Whats wrong with basing one language off another? Ruby comes partly from python and B came from A and so on, nothing is wrong with evolution of languages. I'm rather glad that C++ was created from C instead of creating another language.

The number one tip I've been told by all the coding professionals is DO NOT reinvent the wheel when you don't need to.

This post has been edited by Ticon: 15 September 2012 - 01:57 PM

[NecroWinter]

Ticon, on 15 September 2012 - 01:57 PM, said:

The number one tip I've been told by all the coding professionals is DO NOT reinvent the wheel when you don't need to.

Could you imagine if we DID reinvent the wheel every time we needed to make something? Not only would costs go up on practically everything (pretty much stopping any "real" technological revolution that we went through), the time it would take to trouble shoot and debug the most trivial things would extend the development time exponentially. I dont care how good of a programmer you are, we've all screwed up developing simple things like linked lists, I can only imagine how bad it would get when the scale gets larger.

We could all pretty much kiss our fancy phones and laptops good bye, it just wouldnt be worth it to have individual designs for everything, and forget optimizing operating systems for every piece of hardware from the ground up. Id rather be amish than deal with technology that required that kind of development process.

[lordofduct]

Says the man speaking a language developed years ago by other people, on a computer designed by other people, powered by electricity invented and generated by other people, supplied on an infrastructure maintained by other people...

fuck, OP sounds like the biggest culprit of them all!

[KYA]

I'm totally breathing air someone else already breathed right now!

[modi123_1]

That's right.. because you are not breathing *MY* air... my bubble prevents that. Wheew.

[Lemur]

If you're to pay homage to the late, great Dennis Ritchie, you had danged well better have the decency to properly spell his name.

[aloneprogrammer]

I'm not on innovation but today's dev don't have enough skills like pasts' dev

[bingy]

Why not give an example of what you are talking about instead of trashing programmers all over the world on a forum devised for programmers to help others.

[baavgai]

Innovation? Innovate what?

To a user of a computer, innovation is a GUI or usability paradigm that makes their lives easier. Language doesn't matter. The user doesn't care if you are flipping flags for a machine interrupt or drawing on an HTML5 canvas.

Programmers use the tools that are appropriate to the task. If you're working on chips, you might play with machine code, but you're probably using assembly. If you're writing a device driver, you might work in assembly, but you'll use C if you can get away with it.

If you're working in a browser environment and try to use C; you're an idiot.

[aresh]

Well, since you think programmers today are not "innovative" as such, then you should change this trend. Instead of using VB and C, you should make a new programming language or whatever you think is "innovative" enough for you.