By the way, I didn't optimize it to do dynamic doors, only 3 doors, since I think if you have a million doors and 999,998 were opened for you it's the same scenario with just 3 doors. That's what I guess, anyway.

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### #16

## Re: Prove the Monty Hall Problem (via Simulation)!

Posted 20 September 2012 - 01:29 AM

### #17

## Re: Prove the Monty Hall Problem (via Simulation)!

Posted 20 September 2012 - 02:30 AM

Proved using an exhaustive search of 9 runs:

using System; using System.Collections.Generic; using System.Linq; using System.Text; namespace ExhaustiveMontyHallProblem { class ExhaustiveGoatSearch { private int doorCount; public ExhaustiveGoatSearch(int doorCount) { this.doorCount = doorCount; } private void runSimulations() { int changeCount = 0; int keepCount = 0; int gameCount = 0; for (int i = 0; i < doorCount; i++) { for (int j = 0; j < doorCount; j++) { gameCount++; Game game = new Game(doorCount, i, j); Console.WriteLine(game.toString()); if (game.shouldChangeDoors()) { changeCount++; } else { keepCount++; } } } String bestAction = changeCount > keepCount ? "always" : "never"; Console.WriteLine("The player should have changed doors " + changeCount + " times."); Console.WriteLine("The player should have kept doors " + keepCount + " times."); Console.WriteLine("The best strategy is to " + bestAction + " change doors."); } static void Main(string[] args) { new ExhaustiveGoatSearch(3).runSimulations(); Console.ReadKey(); } } class Game { private int doorCount; private int carPosition; private int initialChoice; public Game (int doorCount, int carPosition, int initialChoice) { this.carPosition = carPosition; this.initialChoice = initialChoice; this.doorCount = doorCount; } public bool shouldChangeDoors() { return carPosition != initialChoice; } public String toString() { String result = ""; for(int i = 0; i < doorCount; i++) { if (i == carPosition) { result += "Car "; } else { result += "Goat "; } } result += "-- Initial choice is door " + (initialChoice + 1); if (shouldChangeDoors()) { result += ". Player should change doors."; } else { result += ". Player should not change doors."; } return result; } } }

### #18

## Re: Prove the Monty Hall Problem (via Simulation)!

Posted 20 September 2012 - 11:29 AM

I've not looked closely at fromTheSprawl's code, but I'm puzzled by the results he is getting. As predicted, by not swapping, chance of winning was only about 33%. No problem there. I thought that by swapping, the contestant had 66% chance of winning, but his numbers show barely 50%. As a quick sanity check, I ran Curtis Rutland's code and that was declaring around a 66% chance of winning.

### #20

## Re: Prove the Monty Hall Problem (via Simulation)!

Posted 20 September 2012 - 12:48 PM

No one took me up on the LINQ challenge? Oh well, curiosity won. Seems it is similar:

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### #21

## Re: Prove the Monty Hall Problem (via Simulation)!

Posted 20 September 2012 - 12:50 PM

I honestly tried, baavgai, but I don't understand Python well enough to understand what was going on in your program.

### #22

## Re: Prove the Monty Hall Problem (via Simulation)!

Posted 20 September 2012 - 12:59 PM

For the 50% on fromTheSprawl's code...

Then, um, read the LINQ?

if switchOk == "yes": doorNumber = randint(0,2) # one goatDoor is chosen # so that's is out of the mix # however, we ignore doorNumber passed # and randomly choose one of the two remaining doors # one wins, one loose, hence 50% while doorNumber == goatDoor: doorNumber = randint(0,2)

Curtis Rutland, on 20 September 2012 - 03:50 PM, said:

I honestly tried, baavgai, but I don't understand Python well enough to understand what was going on in your program.

Then, um, read the LINQ?

### #23

## Re: Prove the Monty Hall Problem (via Simulation)!

Posted 20 September 2012 - 01:01 PM

baavgai, on 20 September 2012 - 02:59 PM, said:

Then, um, read the LINQ?

That's what I was working on

Here's a shortened version of your own code using the extension methods (that I find cleaner):

var total = Enumerable.Range(0, runs) .Where(i => rnd.Next(0, 3) != rnd.Next(0, 3)).Count();

Side note: Resharper bitches about rnd.Next(0,3) != rnd.Next(0,3) and wants to replace it with false. I guess it's not smart enough to realize that the function returns different values when provided the same arguments.

### #24

## Re: Prove the Monty Hall Problem (via Simulation)!

Posted 20 September 2012 - 01:14 PM

A breakdown.

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### #25

## Re: Prove the Monty Hall Problem (via Simulation)!

Posted 20 September 2012 - 06:23 PM

baavgai yeah when I was going home I remembered there's a serious flaw in my montyhall function since even if I set it to switch there's a chance the first chosen door will still be chosen so here's to recompense:

Results are in, not as big a difference as before but it's still there:

In the process I get to learn list comprehensions in Python and a lot of beginner errors.

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Results are in, not as big a difference as before but it's still there:

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In the process I get to learn list comprehensions in Python and a lot of beginner errors.

### #26

## Re: Prove the Monty Hall Problem (via Simulation)!

Posted 20 September 2012 - 08:27 PM

That's still incorrect. Switching should yield 66% wins, as proven by other simulations and math.

### #27

## Re: Prove the Monty Hall Problem (via Simulation)!

Posted 20 September 2012 - 09:57 PM

Hmm, okay I'll work on it!

### #28

## Re: Prove the Monty Hall Problem (via Simulation)!

Posted 20 September 2012 - 10:23 PM

fromTheSprawl, on 20 September 2012 - 08:23 PM, said:

In the process I get to learn list comprehensions in Python and a lot of beginner errors.

That's a worthy endeavor.

Here's a way to think about it that might help:

Three doors, A, B, C. I choose A. Host opens B, says "do you want to switch?".

Misconception: I am choosing between door A and door C. (this is in your program)

Actual case: I am choosing between "the prize is behind door A" and "The prize is behind door B or door C, and we know it's not behind door B".

It's okay if you get confused with this. I know this problem well, and I woke up this morning convinced I'd done it wrong.

### #29

## Re: Prove the Monty Hall Problem (via Simulation)!

Posted 20 September 2012 - 10:38 PM

Good grief!

And the new results:

How about now?

Yes Jon, that was the problem of my first code yesterday. I went the whole way home thinking about that simple but fatal mistake, and then the second one's mistake too. It's the little things that gets you huh.

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And the new results:

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How about now?

Yes Jon, that was the problem of my first code yesterday. I went the whole way home thinking about that simple but fatal mistake, and then the second one's mistake too. It's the little things that gets you huh.

### #30

## Re: Prove the Monty Hall Problem (via Simulation)!

Posted 22 September 2012 - 08:13 AM

Maybe im just stupid over here but if one of the door is opened then dont you have 2 choices now? and your chance is 50/50? and hows that if one of the doors is out of the game is still counted as a choice?