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You're a Top Developer!

Posted 23 September 2012 - 09:34 AM

Congratulatory backpat of the day:

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I know that you are a top rated developer. In fact I know that everyone reading this is ranking among the top 10% of all developers. How do I know? Because 90% of all developers never read a programming blog, never have any side projects to learn something new, and never spend any time or effort outside work hours to improve.

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Interesting article and I sure felt good about myself after reading it, but if everybody [online] is special then no one is. Statistically there has to be at least one guy who has all kinds of side projects, reads all the books, and still sucks. I'd be curious to know what the bias is in this information set.

No! math! Yuck!

There is something to be said to being a student of your profession though and aside from the "pulled out of your ass" percentages, the assertion is spot on.

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Re: You're a Top Developer!

Posted 23 September 2012 - 10:49 AM

I found the article a little misguided myself. Besides the percentage issue you pointed out, it had an underlying hint of ranting and some huge assumptions (in the case of VB6 vs VB.NET). I think the overall goal of the article was to say that we (those active in communities) get the others involved just to make sure the programming industry gets healthier. However, the point assumes that the 10% are not doing that.

The fact is, there are plenty of people out there teaching others and I know of plenty of places to learn online and in the work place. The issue is that the 90% out there are are in programming for other reasons... money, career advancement, necessity. They don't care to learn more. They are simply not passionate. That is alright... every other industry out there is like that too... well except maybe teachers.

I get the point of the article... too bad that 90% who don't read blogs will never read that blog. Even if they did, they wouldn't care. Now if we disabled copying and pasting, they might become a little more caring.

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Re: You're a Top Developer!

Posted 03 October 2012 - 04:06 PM

I have worked with many developers and engineers that have NO interest in learning outside the workplace, and a lot of them have been great. However I think we probably have more fun then them, because we love what we do, and being paid well to do something you would already do in your spare time, is AWESOME.

On the flip side, I've noticed that developers who have social lives and don't spend 24/7 coding, are easier to get along with in teams, and probably have a better sense of perspective. But that's not always the case :)
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Re: You're a Top Developer!

Posted 03 October 2012 - 04:10 PM

View Postwordswords, on 04 October 2012 - 12:06 AM, said:

On the flip side, I've noticed that developers who have social lives and don't spend 24/7 coding, are easier to get along with in teams,


That's cos they'll have better social skills, than the 24/7 coder.
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Re: You're a Top Developer!

Posted 03 October 2012 - 04:14 PM

View PostAdamSpeight2008, on 03 October 2012 - 04:10 PM, said:

That's cos they'll have better social skills, than the 24/7 coder.


Yep, that was my point.
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Re: You're a Top Developer!

Posted 03 October 2012 - 04:18 PM

[sarcasm]Really?[/sarcasm]
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Re: You're a Top Developer!

Posted 03 October 2012 - 04:45 PM

I think I know who is the 24/7 programmer... lol.
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Re: You're a Top Developer!

Posted 26 October 2012 - 04:22 PM

View Postlordofduct, on 03 October 2012 - 04:45 PM, said:

I think I know who is the 24/7 programmer... lol.

The 24/7 programmer is probably cooler, lol. :nottalkingtoyou:
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Re: You're a Top Developer!

Posted 30 October 2012 - 07:18 AM

View PostKYA, on 23 September 2012 - 10:34 AM, said:

Statistically there has to be at least one guy who has all kinds of side projects, reads all the books, and still sucks. I'd be curious to know what the bias is in this information set.

Me. Me. That's totally me. LOL. The more I learn the less I know!
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Re: You're a Top Developer!

Posted 08 November 2012 - 10:11 AM

Haha, I feel your pain depricated. :P

I can understand this, I suppose. People doing things outside of work are bound to know more than those that just do their work and go home.
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Re: You're a Top Developer!

Posted 02 December 2012 - 09:44 PM

I'm personally pretty amazed at how incompetent a large number of the people in our profession are. This incompetence is the main reason that half the projects that get started never make it to production. I don't get it. :/

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