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Borderlands 2

Posted 26 September 2012 - 08:03 AM

So, we've had some other multiplayer game threads here, but I'm surprised nobody has posted one about Borderlands 2 yet.

For those who haven't seen it: it seems right up you guy's alley. It's a dungeon crawler crossed with an FPS thick with black humor and general insanity. It's class based (four classes with more to come, each class has three talent trees), it has procedurally generated loot, and a billion different combinations for guns, which are off the wall crazy. It does 4 player co-op, just like D3.

So, have any of you tried it? I've got a level 22 assassin now. So far it's been crazy addictive. It's touching that same primal node that Diablo did, the addiction center that says "just another hour, I might level again" or "I wonder what that badass mob will drop". The humor is always dark, but never depressing. So far, I've loved it.

So, do any of you play on the PC? Maybe we can get a few games going, because I really haven't bothered with online yet, and I'd like to play with people that aren't complete strangers.

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 08:10 AM

Wait, this is a dungeon crawler? All I've seen were commericals with guys in gimps suits flying through the air with guns in some sort of perpetual "getting your gun off" sort of way. Odd.
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Posted 26 September 2012 - 08:18 AM

I say dungeon crawler. There's not a lot of actual dungeons, but the game behaves like one. There definitely are guys in gimp masks and there definitely is a lot of whiz bang shooty fun, but there's also the loot explosions and the diablo-esqe upgrading. There are tiers of loot (white > green > blue > purple > orange), and all but the orange are procedurally generated. The orange ones are legendary. Mobs drop them when killed, along with ammo, health and cash. There's also a bunch of chests to open and loot.

So, it's like Diablo meets Quake, I guess. It's definitely a FPS, but it has real RPG elements like leveling, talent trees, and gear with stats (guns, shields, grenade mods, relics, class mods). And it's got the dungeon crawl mechanics with loot. And the environments aren't generated like Diablo's were, but it still feels like a dungeon crawl. It's also got things like elite mobs. They're called "Badasses". So, it's really a lot like a shooter-crawler, if that makes any sense.
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Posted 26 September 2012 - 08:25 AM

I guess what's the general gist or thrust of the game? Explore areas and shoot shit, or is this just a pure shoot shit game? I got the feel it was like never ending Team Fortress game.. but that's just my take from the boob-tube.

Is there a monthly fee for this sucker?
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Posted 26 September 2012 - 08:35 AM

it's an FPS RPG like fallout. Less RPG/ More FPS than fallout however. There are many classes of guns that you can level your skill with and a skill tree you can level just like in most RPGs. Your load-out is very customizable and persistent unlike something like CS or COD, more like an RPG. it's open world with NPCs that you can interact with(although, there aren't many NPCs). there are also 4 classes of characters.

it takes place on the planet "Pandora" which has a post apocalyptic feel even though there wasn't an nuclear winter or anything. morals are low, people are uneducated, most things want to kill you, the people that don't want to kill you generally have some flaw that makes you not like them so much.

similar to fry-cry also.

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 08:38 AM

Explore areas and do missions, both of which involve shooting lots of shit. Also there's some driving as well. The missions might be as simple as "go kill a bunch of these things", but a lot of them are a bit more complex, like "go find four hidden recordings", but when you get there something has happened that makes finding them vastly more circuitous.

Definitely not like Team Fortress. The multiplayer isn't competitive, it's cooperative, like the four player co-op in Diablo. It's to do missions and further the story. No monthly fee, just the price of the game.

@ish, I don't know that I'd say it's less RPG than Fallout 3. The game as a whole is less RPG, for sure, because there's no conversation options, ect...But the main gameplay is heavily RPG influenced. Leveling, stats, talent trees, critical hits, It's very much an RPG.

The other really cool thing is the guns. Part of the backstory is that there were a lot of companies competing to exploit Pandora. So, there are a lot of weapons from all these companies too, and they each have some common traits. Jakobs' weapons tend to be powerful, but semi-automatic and slow to reload. Maliwan guns tend to have elemental effects on them. Hyperion guns are high tech, that actually get more stable as you fire. Things like that. And they all have a crazy design that you'd never actually think of for a gun. There's literally dozens if not hundreds of unique gun models.
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Posted 26 September 2012 - 08:42 AM

Wait.. is this a persistent MMO or can I be full filled playing single player on my pc?
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Posted 26 September 2012 - 08:45 AM

It's not an MMO. There's no massive about it. If you played Diablo 3, it's like that, except not always-online. I've played to level 22 without joining a multiplayer game at all, completely solo. But if I wanted to, I could join a public game, or create my own, which would join me up with three other players to do four player co-op, and the co-op game would continue the host's story game. Your offline character is also your online character.
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Posted 26 September 2012 - 08:54 AM

Ah.. okay this is starting to make more sense. (Sheesh you would think the marketing geeks would make this clear to me.) So it's a single player game that has a well used multiplayer part.

Okay..okay.. so I can play happily by myself and never have to interact with the rest of the world's filth... that ups the ante of me maybe getting this game.
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Posted 26 September 2012 - 08:57 AM

Check some Youtube videos of gameplay. You should be able to tell if it's your kind of game.
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Posted 26 September 2012 - 08:59 AM

Yeah I was thinking it was some multiplayer only game like call of duty.. but if it's single player like fallout new vegas then bad ass.
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Posted 26 September 2012 - 10:44 AM

curt: I only say it's less RPG than fallout, not that it's not very much so an RPG. Fallout fits what I would call an RPG more, a big part of that being that the story is dependent on your choices and that quests are asynchronous; both key points of RPGs if you ask me. although there is some asynchronous, there isn't much.
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Posted 26 September 2012 - 12:48 PM

I played the first game and liked it, but ultimately I just completely forgot to play it after level 10 or so. That must mean I didn't really like it as much as I thought I did no? I really have no interest in the 2nd game. Did they at least make the quests more interesting?
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Posted 26 September 2012 - 01:32 PM

I think so. I mean, most of the quests aren't as straightforward as they seem. So far, most of them are multi-stage quests that become a chain. For instance, after I opened a new town as a quest hub, one of the quests were to help them get the medicine they needed. First, I had to climb their clock tower to get a battery to fix their medicine machine (which is actually the vendor which you can use) to get the first shipment. The second is on a convoy halfway across the zone, who has escorts. You have to kill them all to get it. The third is on the other side of the zone, and once you get there, a tough worm shows up that you have to beat. Then, you give it all back, and she asks you to help them make a shield for the town. You have to feed five shields (actual equippable loot) into a grinder, and give her the cores. Then, she wants you to test it. You have to go fight your way into a Hyperion facility to use their mortar to test the shield. But there's been a town NPC named Dave talking shit to you and her the whole time, so she sneakily gets you to bomb his house with the mortar first.

It starts out simple, but becomes a neat chain, and that's just one of them. Some of them are still simple, but funny. There's a timed one about picking up packages from an "arms dealer" for the doctor before the packages expire. The quest text says you have no idea how guns expire. It turns out they are the body part kind of arms that you're fetching.

I feel like it's just a significantly more polished version of BL1. If you didn't like BL1, BL2 isn't going to convince you it's great. If you thought BL1 could have used some polish, try out BL2, because that's basically what it is. A more polished and fleshed-out game.
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Posted 26 September 2012 - 03:46 PM

I'm a sucker for Borderlands. I've already beaten it (level 35 Siren). I think the dialog writing and voice acting is spot on and incredible. The story to the first was meh, while the second had a little more substance.

The real nice part is that it simultaneously scratches my lootwhore and trigger finger combat with character customization itches without being a blatant front for generating money for the company. Gearbox is about making games people enjoy, and I've already enjoyed the hell out of Borderlands 2.
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