[MisterP]

Hey guys, just wondering what sort of income you guys are on that are in decent software companies. I'm currently a student and programming at the moment and really want to know what the average wage some of you programmers are on! Thanks for your answers

[modi123_1]

Not an introduce yourself sort of thing.. moving to 'cubicle corners'.

[lordofduct]

A bajillion dollars a day!

[macosxnerd101]

It's a little rude to ask people how much they make, in my opinion. Plus, you will get better information if you do a little research. It varies based on your skill level and locality, but these links should give you a decent idea.

http://www.glassdoor...salary-SRCH_KO0,18.htm
http://money.usnews....eveloper/salary

[modi123_1]

Don't forget http://www.salary.com/

[MisterP]

Thanks for your answers guys but any idea in Ireland?

[macosxnerd101]

Again, it only takes a quick Google search. I use the search terms: ireland software developer salaries and got the following results.

Search: https://www.google.c...lient=firefox-a

Results:
http://www.payscale....Engineer/Salary
http://www.irishjobs...-Developer-Jobs

[Lemur]

If you're in it for the money, you're in it for the wrong reasons. Call me a purist, but if you don't love what you do you'll never truly excel in it.

[MisterP]

Thanks for the replies guys! Ah I'm not all in it for the money, I love programming and i think its a nice challenge. Making applications is like inventing something in my mind which will keep me at it! I just hear outrageous salaries from different places i just want to know the truth!Plus work is work at the end of the day.

[creativecoding]

What's considered a "good" income? How much should one need in order to have a decent house/health/lifestyle?

[sas1ni69]

Lemur, on 07 October 2012 - 08:34 AM, said:

If you're in it for the money, you're in it for the wrong reasons. Call me a purist, but if you don't love what you do you'll never truly excel in it.

Well you aren't completely out of line but if at the same time you feel under appreciated and underpaid at your current job, there's no reason why you shouldn't be looking around elsewhere and moving on.

It might even allow you to work a little better when you're not thinking about bills all the time.

[Sergio Tapia]

macosxnerd101, on 05 October 2012 - 11:08 PM, said:

It's a little rude to ask people how much they make, in my opinion. Plus, you will get better information if you do a little research. It varies based on your skill level and locality, but these links should give you a decent idea.

http://www.glassdoor...salary-SRCH_KO0,18.htm
http://money.usnews....eveloper/salary

That's strange, must be a US thing. Here in Bolivia and most other places in Europe sharing your salary is considered normal. The more transparency the more level playing field there is for employees against their employers.

[fromTheSprawl]

Possible reasons why sharing of income is not good:
- breach of contracts
- it's unethical
- broken hearts due to realizing your friends get higher pay than you(varies in people, depending if you're the envious type)
- fights inside the company where one learns that a new hire was offered a higher pay than yours and the company will not do anything about it

I partially agree with Lemur, but please do bear in mind that some of us aren't privileged and support families so that we often shoot for the highest we can get. Yep, using "we" there.

But! I agree with Lemur because if you love doing something, then more often than not you'll get to be good at it, that will translate to more companies hiring you with higher offers.

[sas1ni69]

fromTheSprawl, on 08 October 2012 - 10:27 AM, said:

Possible reasons why sharing of income is not good:
- breach of contracts
- it's unethical

Just curious as to how is it unethical. Besides, I've never had a contract clause which said that I shouldn't disclose my salary. Am I missing something?

[fromTheSprawl]

From what I'm reading on Google it seems that not all companies ask you to keep your contract confidential, so I guess you're right, but from where I'm from all the jobs I know with contracts ask for confidentiality.

It's unethical since it can cause grief to any party involve in the questioning, as they said above, it's rude.