Python IDLE - what to choose?

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Python IDLE - what to choose?

Posted 29 October 2012 - 07:29 AM

Hello,
I'm new on this froum but I was looking for a good programming forum for a long time and now I've found one) Hope you can help me a bit with my Python learning.
I'm now learning Python (Coursera class) and use IDLE that goes with the Python download. But judging from other programming languages there should be some more advanced idles with more functions. Can you plese advice some for Python?
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Re: Python IDLE - what to choose?

Posted 29 October 2012 - 07:35 AM

This isn't really 'industry news'. Moving to the python forum. Please be mindful of where you post.
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Posted 29 October 2012 - 07:42 AM

Oh, thank you - I'll be more attentive next time
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Posted 29 October 2012 - 08:04 AM

I'd suggest trying the PyDev Eclipse plugin.
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Posted 29 October 2012 - 11:54 AM

View PostAtli, on 29 October 2012 - 08:04 AM, said:

I'd suggest trying the PyDev Eclipse plugin.


I am having trouble installing the pydev.org plug into eclipse. I downloaded 2.7 and found the unix executable file. But when I select it says it is an incomplete file because it is missing the python standard library. I am not sure what I can use as an alternative development environment. I am using a new version of eclipse juno. Any help please besides google search for a new ide.
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Re: Python IDLE - what to choose?

Posted 29 October 2012 - 12:00 PM

By the way, please don't confuse "IDLE" and "IDE" - they're two different things.

IDE: Integrated Development Environment - a program like Eclipse or Visual Studio, which helps manage a project. Usually has a built-in compiler, auto-completion and a debugger, among many other things.

IDLE: Pythons standard wanna-be IDE. I say wanna-be because IDLE is tiny compared to something like Eclipse. It has less features, and as a consequence is much easier to learn.

Personally, for Python, I prefer to just use a text editor and run my scripts from the command line.
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Posted 29 October 2012 - 12:17 PM

I can't really help you with Eclipse install issues. Don't really use it myself. Last time I used Python I was using a Aptana 3 setup (which includes PyDev) on a Windows machine.

With a standard Eclipse installation, you can find installation instructions here.
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Posted 29 October 2012 - 12:23 PM

I'll give aptana a try sounds good if it already has built in pydev. Thanks.
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Posted 29 October 2012 - 12:53 PM

View PostLocalNomad, on 29 October 2012 - 12:23 PM, said:

I'll give aptana a try sounds good if it already has built in pydev. Thanks.


Interestingly, I downloaded Aptana, and got the error: using an unsupported interpreter. I'll check out the aptana download instructions.
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Posted 30 October 2012 - 03:09 AM

Thank you for the advices - I'll try to install Aptana today, and write back about my success. As to Eclipse plugin - I've tried to installed it, but unfortunately got an error( Both with Python 3 and 2.7
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Posted 30 October 2012 - 03:18 AM

PyScripter looks nice.
The top choice though upon searching on the internet is the aforementioned PyDev plugin.
You can also check the wiki for Python Editors. The list is compiled by the Python org itself.
http://wiki.python.o...n/PythonEditors

I use the console IDE by the way, in conjunction with a notepad(Notepad++ or Sublime Text).
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Posted 30 October 2012 - 05:19 AM

In my experience, PyDev is very easy to install - if you do it from inside Eclipse.

In Eclipse go:

Help > Install Software

Enter: http://pydev.org/updates in the "Work with:" box.

Select the features you want, and install!

I'd say it was very good as an IDE, but if you are new to Eclipse too, you might struggle to get started, but it's worth persevering with.
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Posted 30 October 2012 - 08:01 AM

I am currently using PyScripter which is quite user friendly, it is color coded and give you tips of uncommon syntax. Other things include; personalizing your own color codes, changing fonts and etc... Currently supports Python 3.3.x .
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Posted 30 October 2012 - 08:11 AM

I typically use vi, but that won't surprise anyone. :)
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Posted 30 October 2012 - 08:17 AM

I agree with that. I use vi (well, vim) for most of my smaller coding projects and utility scripts, and then PyDev usually if it gets large enough.

Anyone familiar with eclim? I think it could potentially be good as a nice bridge between eclipse and vim, but I'm yet to try it. Probably not for everyone though!

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