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Soccer and a new low..

Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:17 AM

What's up with soccer fans and this new bout of violence and racism? I was brushing my teeth this morning and ESPN was covering part of this story...

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Violent attacks, the chanting of Adolf Hitler's name and anti-Semitic abuse -- not dark memories of the 1930s but four days in the life of English Premier Leage club Tottenham Hotspur.

It has been an annus horribilis in football's fight against discrimination with Chelsea and Liverpool notably dragged through the mud, but Sunday's game against West Ham at Spurs' White Hart Lane stadium -- as fans made Nazi salutes -- gave the impression English football had reached a new low.

As well as the salutes, there were also accusations of anti-Semitic abuse, including hissing to mimic the sound of gas chambers, a reminder of the deaths of six million Jews during the Holocaust.
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Visiting fans are alleged to have sung "Viva Lazio" and "Can we stab you every week?" in relation to the attack which left a Tottenham fan seriously injured when a group stormed a bar Spurs supporters were drinking at in Rome ahead of a Europa League match with Lazio last week.

Media reports also said fans chanted "Adolf Hitler, he's coming for you" and hissed, mimicking the gassing of Jews during the Holocaust.
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You don't say?

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Given what had happened on Thursday in Rome, third-tier Scunthorpe United manager Brian Laws will probably wished he had chosen his words more carefully in describing his team's performance on Saturday "as bad as the Holocaust"
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... you *can't* condemn it on face value?

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Promoted West Ham's manager Sam Allardyce told reporters he did not hear any controversial chanting by away fans.

"I don't hear what the fans say or do when I'm concentrating as a manager on a game of football," he said.

"They shouldn't be doing things like that, it is the least of my worries at the minute isn't it? What do you want me to say? If I didn't hear it I can't condemn it can I?"
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I occasionally get sucked into soccer discussions with folk and it is just amazing how extreme this gets. From some of the videos on youtube it looks like loyalty lies in what - gate, section, team/club, and then country?

Groups like Gate 9 (from Cyprus) crop up and they have outlandish videos. Then there's the bananas thrown on field, monkey calls, and the like.


Of course there's the stereotypical hooligans to round out the fun, and that whole rats nest of issues with hardcore violence over a game.


So the question is 'why'? Then the follow up is what are the soccer authorities doing to reign this in? Sure so and so gets banned for sometime, but is that addressing the issue?

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But he added: “I don’t see this as only Eastern European, except by shade or degree. It’s ubiquitous in Europe. Somehow the soccer stadium has remained the last bastion of unmitigated maleness. You can behave badly and be proud of it, the way you can’t in virtually any other venue in Europe.”
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Re: Soccer and a new low..

Posted 27 November 2012 - 12:42 PM

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gave the impression English football had reached a new low.


A.) There's nothing new under the sun
B.) People, as time progresses, will be shown to have, collectively, become more tarded.
C.) The lowest common denominator of people, on average, are sports fans.

Considering the above three facts, I do not find it surprising in the least that large groups of worthless people behave badly.

I would be shocked if they didn't.

What is more tarded and ridiculous than racial slurs, nazi salutes, stabbings, and riots? You'll see in about 15 years.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 12:48 PM

REtarded. The word is retarded.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:02 PM

irregardless, they are acting pretty terribly, wouldn't you say b9?
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:04 PM

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For all intensive purposes, I think they should start using electronical crowd control devices.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:06 PM

Soccor's a pretty drama-y sport with a lot of shitty fans if you ask me. I remember awhile ago I saw a liveleak video of a guy who threw an impact-detonated grenade onto the field. The grass softened the fall and so a player picked it up and tossed it onto the sidelines where it promptly exploded. Luckily nobody was hurt.

Here it is:

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:06 PM

Televise the electronically crowd control, & I'ld tune into a soccer match or two.

I'm sorry, you were red-carded, you now get the cattle prod : *ZAT*
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:29 PM

Maybe Germany was wrong to deny the patent for this amazingly useful little device.


"Attention all attendees, please remember to be polite and respectful to your countrymen and women, or else the cyanide capsule in your RFID implant will be activated and your corpse donated to the local hungry homeless people, or to science, or both."


BTW, I like a little egg on my corn

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:05 PM

You should have seen the BBC documentary leading up to the Euro 2012 in Poland and Ukraine. You might be able to find it on the iPlayer. Not sure.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 10:09 PM

I'll accept the corpse only if the piece of cyanide has been removed from it. I dont want to die over my meal of liver and fava beans with a nice Chianti.
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Re: Soccer and a new low..

Posted 27 November 2012 - 10:14 PM

View PostPython_4_President, on 27 November 2012 - 04:29 PM, said:

BTW, I like a little egg on my corn


It was an intentional error, pumpkin.

Also, electronical isn't a word. Neither is irregardless. Neither is tarded.

U C what I did there?
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Posted 28 November 2012 - 07:03 AM

Yeah I don't get it I mean there is nothing manly about soccer at all.
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Posted 28 November 2012 - 07:11 AM

Men in shorts fighting over a ball ? What's not manly about it ?
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Posted 28 November 2012 - 07:45 AM

Well... Nah, you're right.
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Posted 28 November 2012 - 09:25 AM

right..... because wearing a helmet and padding as in American football is as manly as synchronized swimming.
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