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Naughty Verizon

Posted 05 June 2013 - 07:59 PM

http://www.guardian....ata-court-order

So, in case you haven't seen twitter exploding lately: Verizon has been handing over its data to the NSA in an unprecedented invasion of privacy. Can anyone say class action lawsuits all around?
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Posted 05 June 2013 - 11:40 PM

verizon ripped me off with a $600 early cancellation fee. in.
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Posted 06 June 2013 - 04:00 AM

No I didn't know, but I'm gonna rant a minute. When i got my droid I told them I wanted the 1000 text messages on my line. Since then I've had a few bills up to $400 and I always just thought I went over my data because I could totally see that. Last month I called bitching and they said it was because of texts. They charged me for every text as the asshole never put it on my plan.

Inb4 "why didn't you study your bill and go through it with a fine tooth comb?"
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Posted 06 June 2013 - 09:17 PM

I'm wondering how many of the congressmen and senators who are now "outraged" by this also voted for the Patriot Act which actually facilitated this. It was interesting to see ABC World News Tonight actually out Obama for ranting about the abuses of exactly this type, and is now on the other side saying that it's okay -- you can trust the government.
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Posted 06 June 2013 - 11:09 PM

Why is data communication businesses always so shady. I mean c'mon, if you're gonna give away my personal info at least give me a good 4g connection!
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Posted 06 June 2013 - 11:15 PM

View Postcreativecoding, on 07 June 2013 - 03:09 PM, said:

Why is data communication businesses always so shady. I mean c'mon, if you're gonna give away sell my personal info at least give me a good 4g connection!


Fixed.
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Posted 08 June 2013 - 11:21 PM

You guys should join in on the fun.
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Posted 26 June 2013 - 05:43 AM

Yes, it's not good that the government is doing these things, but it's worse that they can easily get the information from businesses that really shouldn't be tracking it.

At least in a democracy there is some incentive for the government to do good with the information. A corporation on the other hand has only one incentive: money. Just like if a corporation can make/save money by dumping toxic chemicals in your back yard it will, if it can make more money by abusing the information then it will do that too.
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Posted 26 June 2013 - 11:08 AM

So how many of you switched carriers after finding out about this?
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Re: Naughty Verizon

Posted 26 June 2013 - 11:10 AM

Not me. Verizon is the only wireless carrier to get service in my little BFE corner of Podunk.
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Posted 26 June 2013 - 11:25 AM

Yeah, neither did I because everyone I know is on Verizon, so it's cheaper to have them than someone else.
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Re: Naughty Verizon

Posted 26 June 2013 - 11:29 AM

View PostSkydiver, on 06 June 2013 - 11:17 PM, said:

I'm wondering how many of the congressmen and senators who are now "outraged" by this also voted for the Patriot Act which actually facilitated this. It was interesting to see ABC World News Tonight actually out Obama for ranting about the abuses of exactly this type, and is now on the other side saying that it's okay -- you can trust the government.


It's interesting to wonder just what it is Obama should have done here. Given that these programs were in existence when he got into office, what would be the right thing to do? I suppose he could have just told the NSA to shut them down - but of course then you have the Boston Marathon bombing, and suddenly every mushbrain in the country starts yelling about how "Obama caused the bombing by stopping the NSA from listening to the terrorists".
I mean, I hate the Patriot Act bullshit, but the nice thing about Obama for me was that he didn't come in thinking that he's a President and that makes him magic. Part of that, it seems to me, is that he doesn't get to just wave his hand and change the rules. You know, backing off from the whole King George phenomenon.

For my money, this kind of story just reminds me that it's well past time to ditch the gmail account, start using my kiparsky.net mailbox, and encrypting everything. Not because there's anything that I don't want people to read, just to make the bastards work a little harder.
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Posted 26 June 2013 - 11:33 AM

Speaking that Obama, in his campaign speeches, stated he would shut down any and ALL Unconstitutional programs that started under Bush, he lied on this, and other promises!!
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Re: Naughty Verizon

Posted 26 June 2013 - 11:39 AM

Citation, please.
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