Kill hitler or the guy who made cigarettes?

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Kill hitler or the guy who made cigarettes?

Posted 26 July 2013 - 12:22 PM

Last night my friends and I were have a few beers and this topic came up: if you could go back in time and prevent either Hitler killing millions of people or prevent cigarettes from ever being made, which would it be? (No one would take their place) Hitler killed roughly near 11 million people (a fixed number) where as the cigarette guy, even after his death, has killed more. What do you guys think and please provide your reasons. They both are F***ed up tho.

EDIT** I know its choice vs murder, but far more people are and will be affected by cigs.
Also, there is a difference between outlawing cigs and completely stopping them from coming into existence ever. So, dont talk about outlawing it when the choice is to completely cease its existence, or Hilters.

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 12:30 PM

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The choice between government-sponsored ethnic cleansing or self-inflicted lung cancer? Obviously, there was drinking involved to even pose the question.

Bottom line: Hitler ordered the systematic slaughter of millions. Cigarette guy didn't do shit to anybody. No one forced my hand to take up smoking. It will be no one's fault but my own should I die of cigarette-related illness.
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Posted 26 July 2013 - 12:34 PM

I doubt there was one guy who made cigarettes. Tobacco has been popular for ages and was likely self discovered by several different groups. Also, I have no problem with people smoking. It is their choice and their choice alone.
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Posted 26 July 2013 - 12:59 PM

Well what I want to know is what exactly were you drinking because I don't really see a debate....

mass murderer or
mass ignorance
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Posted 26 July 2013 - 01:08 PM

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you and your friends aren't the brightest crayons in the box, are you?
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Posted 26 July 2013 - 01:26 PM

Ah.. I remember that Zobomondo wasn't a bad drinking/party game...

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Posted 26 July 2013 - 01:27 PM

I would't go back to kill Hitler; after all, who knows, we might be worse off today if world war two never happened.

I certainly don't think whoever discovered tobacco and it's effects deserves to die for it, however i would outlaw smoking if i could.
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Posted 26 July 2013 - 01:27 PM

Fun fact: iirc tobacco is the cash crop that helped build America.
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Posted 26 July 2013 - 01:28 PM

now i'm wondering if the username 'streek' was actually taken.
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Posted 26 July 2013 - 01:30 PM

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Re: Kill hitler or the guy who made cigarettes?

Posted 26 July 2013 - 01:33 PM

View PostWitchking, on 26 July 2013 - 04:27 PM, said:

I would't go back to kill Hitler; after all, who knows, we might be worse off today if world war two never happened.

I certainly don't think whoever discovered tobacco and it's effects deserves to die for it, however i would outlaw smoking if i could.



So, you would NOT go back and save MILLIONS of lives... because then things might be different.

But you WOULD go back and outlaw one of the major crops that built this country... because obviously that wouldn't change anything today.

WTF???


EDIT: "This country" being the US. Yes, I realize we don't ALL live here. I just like to PRETEND we do.
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Posted 26 July 2013 - 01:38 PM

View PostWitchking, on 26 July 2013 - 01:27 PM, said:

I would't go back to kill Hitler; after all, who knows, we might be worse off today if world war two never happened.

I certainly don't think whoever discovered tobacco and it's effects deserves to die for it, however i would outlaw smoking if i could.


Why does it make sense to outlaw smoking?
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Posted 26 July 2013 - 01:38 PM

Because prohibition worked out so well.
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Posted 26 July 2013 - 01:39 PM

Hell, look at how effective the laws against weed are now.
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Re: Kill hitler or the guy who made cigarettes?

Posted 26 July 2013 - 01:39 PM

Wait. We don't all live here?

And to think I was treating everyone as equals!

Welp, fuck all of yous now! ::double middle fingers::
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