What's your most controversial programming opinion?

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Re: What's your most controversial programming opinion?

Posted 23 August 2013 - 02:38 PM

Java doesn't REALLY need lambdas or extension methods.
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Posted 23 August 2013 - 02:46 PM

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 02:54 PM

Javascript is a fascinating, powerful, language.

VB.NET is a proper programming language.
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Re: What's your most controversial programming opinion?

Posted 23 August 2013 - 02:55 PM

View PostButchDean, on 23 August 2013 - 04:05 PM, said:

Frontend programmers are not as good as backend programmers.



... if you know what I mean....
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Posted 23 August 2013 - 03:01 PM

real men do both.
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Posted 23 August 2013 - 05:49 PM

You must perform seppuku when your merge breaks master.
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Re: What's your most controversial programming opinion?

Posted 24 August 2013 - 06:17 AM

View Postcreativecoding, on 23 August 2013 - 04:41 PM, said:

HTML is a programming language. Can non-programmers write you some HTML code? Nope.


I'd put in one caveat with this. I have seen some web designers write decent HTML. However, put them in front of any kind of scripting language, and they're suddenly dead in the water.
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Posted 24 August 2013 - 06:25 AM

Schrodinger's language :o
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Re: What's your most controversial programming opinion?

Posted 24 August 2013 - 08:48 AM

View Postsupersloth, on 23 August 2013 - 07:01 PM, said:

real men do both.

But their skills at each end will not be as sharp as if they were dedicated either way. #noinnuendointended
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Re: What's your most controversial programming opinion?

Posted 24 August 2013 - 09:52 AM

By far my most debated opinion I have given on my blog is that "Why Everyone Should NOT Learn to Code" which I go into the fact that not everyone is going to be good at it, people are going to think they are good at it when they are not and that those who are only dangerous enough to write bad code will attempt to make a career out of it. Thus stealing jobs away from the good programmers who write good code, saturating the market to make it appear programmers are "a dime a dozen" and make it more difficult for qualified programmers to find work and get paid well for it.

There is this belief that everyone should learn coding and that it will make the world a better place. Well I tell you what, why not teach everyone to be a doctor and get a job as one. Then next time your life is on the line, we will let one of these "doctors" who are in it just for money and are "so-so" skill wise operate on you.

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Re: What's your most controversial programming opinion?

Posted 24 August 2013 - 10:11 AM

A little off topic but:
There seems to be quite a number of pupils who come here having signed-up for (or having been forcibly enrolled?) in IT courses but who have no interest in the subject, and want to make the least effort possible to get a pass-mark. Often they post here late on a Sunday :whistling:

Are IT or programming courses considered a soft option? Or is one of these a required subject at some schools?
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Re: What's your most controversial programming opinion?

Posted 24 August 2013 - 10:17 AM

View Postandrewsw, on 24 August 2013 - 10:11 AM, said:

Are IT or programming courses considered a soft option? Or is one of these a required subject at some schools?


Soft option... yes. Why learn Math or English when you can take a class where you "play on computers and browse the web"? And also yes, some schools are identifying the need for more tech savvy workers and make the course required so that they can at least say they prepare students for the future.

The fact is, many schools are still largely underfunded, understaffed with qualified teachers and really don't take the classes serious enough to make sure students learn everything correctly. Many schools make their computer classes basically "learning to type" classes or "how to find a qualified resource" on the web.

Of course most students then go straight to wikipedia and copy word for word because frankly computer science is a science and some students don't care to learn science.

:)
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Posted 24 August 2013 - 10:20 AM

I don't think it is forced.. I think they are looking to be programmers (because it's good money and folks tell them they are good at it), but they are over their head.
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Re: What's your most controversial programming opinion?

Posted 24 August 2013 - 10:30 AM

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And also yes, some schools are identifying the need for more tech savvy workers and make the course required so that they can at least say they prepare students for the future.

Those who are interested will pass and are on their way to become good programmers, but those who are not interested or in it "to become famous" :) resort to cheatingand will just create mess on the market after they graduate.

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The fact is, many schools are still largely underfunded, understaffed with qualified teachers and really don't take the classes serious enough to make sure students learn everything correctly.


And that lack of quality is show here on DIC, just take a peek at Gimme teh codes forum, most of those students come from South east Asia(mostly India)
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Posted 24 August 2013 - 11:18 AM

I've got to say, I kind of like the education here in Europe.
As far as I know the schools in Europe are quite good.

In Belgium for example, there aren't many universities.
But the professors are pretty good.
As for high-school, we had good teachers as well.

I agree that coding/programming isn't for everybody.
That's why I like the way people react to the "Gimme teh Codes" people on this forum.
I like the reality check.
I realized because of such a reality check I wanted to become a computer scientist.
I think that people that really want to be programmers/computer scientist only get motivated by a reality check.
Those that want it for the wrong reasons will be turned down by the check.

Something else I find controversial.
Video tutorials.
I agree, nothing beats a good book. Or a good education.
But a good video tutorial can do wonders. (while a lot of people, also here, hate video tutorials).
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