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Poll: Legal MP3 downloading? (26 member(s) have cast votes)

Is (not should) it legal to download mp3s when the band or record label no longer exist?

  1. Yes (5 votes [19.23%])

    Percentage of vote: 19.23%

  2. No (14 votes [53.85%])

    Percentage of vote: 53.85%

  3. What's an MP3? (7 votes [26.92%])

    Percentage of vote: 26.92%

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Is (not should) it legal to download mp3s when the band or record labe

Posted 24 September 2007 - 12:28 PM

So the situation is this, the band Pop Will Eat Itself released 3 Us albums. However, they have dozens of others. The band, however, has been broken up since 1995(ish?). So my question is this: Since it isn't possible for me to purchase these cds (in America) & since the band no longer stands to make money off the sales, is it legal for me to download them?

Also, what about in the event of Energy Records. Since they went under & no longer exist, they too can no longer collect 'said Earth monies' for record sales. Could I not too legally download albums they put out?

It's a simple yes/no question, don't hound me with details because I simply don't care. If you can't quote (or post) your source, then it's your opinion & left to my interpretation. Chances are, again, I don't care.

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Re: Is (not should) it legal to download mp3s when the band or record labe

Posted 24 September 2007 - 12:44 PM

it is not legal. for a very many years after the break up.

nonetheless,
mediadefender and the other companies that watch this stuff do not care really about music as they used to.... and aren't going to be defending companies that no longer exist.
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Posted 24 September 2007 - 12:54 PM

whether the record company exists does not matter.what matters is the copyright on the mp3 and when it will expire. if copyright has expired it is legal to download.

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Re: Is (not should) it legal to download mp3s when the band or record labe

Posted 24 September 2007 - 02:25 PM

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since the band no longer stands to make money off the sales


what makes you think this?

If a copyright existed to make the track, there are royalties for this item to someone, the original creator or someone who has purchased the rights for this recording, often the distributer.

@gogole:
the license on an mp3 may expire, but the copyright does not, as long as some subsidiary of the production company exists.
I believe the proper terms are: only 95 years after the last member's death, in control of a copyright, may a copyright be lifted.


As for laws in general:
currently it is illegal to upload music in Canada, but to download the laws are less enforceable.
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Posted 24 September 2007 - 02:36 PM

AW DAMN. I CLICKED YES WHEN I MEANT NO!

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Posted 24 September 2007 - 02:46 PM

View PostFygar, on 24 Sep, 2007 - 05:36 PM, said:

AW DAMN. I CLICKED YES WHEN I MEANT NO!

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I got ya, consider your vote officially tampered with.
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Posted 24 September 2007 - 03:01 PM

I chose "What is an Mp3" because I just wanted to be different. :D
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Posted 24 September 2007 - 05:15 PM

Is it morally correct? A debatable yes.
Is it legally correct? An absolute no.
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Posted 24 September 2007 - 05:19 PM

Absolutely illegal!!!
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 11:02 AM

legal till indicted
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 11:04 AM

View PosteLliDKraM, on 25 Sep, 2007 - 11:02 AM, said:

legal till indicted


Agreed.
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 11:19 AM

Making a record is expensive and takes a lot of time. Royalties are a way for artists to recoup their losses, pay debts, etc. Keep in mind a lot of musicians aren't rich rock stars. Many have day jobs. Even having a hit record or song is not a lifetime pass to ride the gravy train. Music is a temporary industry for the artist.
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Re: Is (not should) it legal to download mp3s when the band or record labe

Posted 25 September 2007 - 11:21 AM

View Postdevinmcmanus, on 25 Sep, 2007 - 11:19 AM, said:

Making a record is expensive and takes a lot of time. Royalties are a way for artists to recoup their losses, pay debts, etc. Keep in mind a lot of musicians aren't rich rock stars. Many have day jobs. Even having a hit record or song is not a lifetime pass to ride the gravy train. Music is a temporary industry for the artist.

The musicians are paid upfront, if they don't like the offer they can walk... this has nothing to do with the question posted. But thanks =-)
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Posted 26 September 2007 - 03:07 AM

View Postaxel, on 26 Sep, 2007 - 02:04 AM, said:

View PosteLliDKraM, on 25 Sep, 2007 - 11:02 AM, said:

legal till indicted


Agreed.


Ditto.

Sorry but this is the Philippines, like China, piracy and all related stuff are highly rampant. There are "laws" but the corrupt officials always win. Sheesh

Personally, I don't like the idea.
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Posted 27 September 2007 - 01:31 PM

Everyone I know downloads all their songs illegally, regardless of anything. Personally I might have illegal copies of music, but if I like the music enough I'll buy the CD just to have it (and to make pure WAVs out of). Same thing with ROMs to newly released games, if I like it I head down to the store n' buy it.
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