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good laptop for programming

Posted 24 February 2015 - 02:28 PM

I'm sorry if this is not the appropriate forum to ask this but I couldn't find anything else.

Recently my desktop, a Vista *sigh*, has been acting up and I think it's time to invest in a laptop, however I am completely ignorant when it comes to the specs of a good laptop. Can anyone please suggest a good laptop for programming - and by that I mean that it won't make loud noises, over heat, or process slowly if I'm using an IDE- and if possible, under 600 dollars. I would prefer the OS to be Windows, simply because I'm used to it, but if that's not possible I'll take any OS.

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Re: good laptop for programming

Posted 24 February 2015 - 02:40 PM

You should look for a Lenovo G700 startsup quickly is very fast and does not over-heat that much.

It has a i7-CPU wich allowes multithreading (handy for debugging)
It has a NVidia GTX 720 M video card (very handy for testing your games or for second screen)
8GB of memory (wich is good for debugging programs and for some more stuff)
And i prefer using Windows 7 for now. but later update to the Windows 10 edition because i have the beta version and im very satisfied by it.

You could also get the Lenovo Z50
It has 16GB of memory (good for fast debugging etc)
It has a i7-CPU intel
Good Video card NVIDIA® Geforce® 840M 4 GB-graphics.
and 1 terrabyte HardDisk. (good for alot of codes xD)

now you know where some specs are good for heres a list of recommended laptops by me :)/>/>/>/>/>/>/> :

Lenovo Z50-70 Silver (recommended for price/performance)
Price: € 599,00
Processor: Intel Core i5-4210U Processor( 1.70GHz 1600MHz 3MB)
Operating system: Windows 8.1 64
Display type: 15.6" FHD LED Glare Wedge 1920x1080
System Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 820M 2GB
Total memory: 4.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3L SDRAM 1600 MHz
Hard drive device: 500GB 5400 rpm
Optical device: DVD Recordable (Dual Layer)


Lenovo Z50-70 - DVD - Black
Price: € 629,00
Processor: Intel Core i5-4210U Processor( 1.70GHz 1600MHz 3MB)
Operating system: Windows 8.1 64
Display type: 15.6" FHD LED Glare Wedge 1920x1080
System Graphics: Intel HD 4400
Total memory: 6.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3L SDRAM 1600 MHz
Hard drive device: 500GB 5400 rpm
Optical device: DVD Recordable (Dual Layer)

Lenovo Z50-70 - 1TB - Black
Price: € 699,00
Processor: Intel Core i5-4210U Processor( 1.70GHz 1600MHz 3MB)
Operating system: Windows 8.1 64
Display type: 15.6" FHD LED Glare Wedge 1920x1080
System Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 820M 2GB
Total memory: 8.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3L SDRAM 1600 MHz
Hard drive device: 1TB 5400 rpm
Optical device: DVD Recordable (Dual Layer)

Lenovo Z70-80 - i5- 1TB + 8GB SSD- N15S-GT DDR3L 2G
Price: € 699,00
Processor: Intel Core i5-5200U Processor( 2.20GHz 1600MHz 3MB)
Operating system: Windows 8.1 64
Display type: 17.3" FHD IPS LED Backlit 1920x1080
System Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 840M 2GB 2GB
Total memory: 8.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3L 1600 MHz
Hard drive device: 1TB 5400 rpm
Optical device: DVD Recordable

Lenovo Z70-80 - i7- 1TB + 8GB SSD- N15S-GT DDR3L 2G (highly-recommended)
Price € 799,00
Processor: Intel Core i7-5500U Processor( 2.40GHz 1600MHz 4MB)
Operating system: Windows 8.1 64
Display type: 17.3" FHD IPS LED Backlit 1920x1080
System Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 840M 2GB 2GB
Total memory: 8.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3L 1600 MHz
Hard drive device: 1TB 5400 rpm
Optical device: DVD Recordable

if you want a low price but still good for programming check out 11e-series
but i recommend choosing one fromt the G-series because they are overal good for programming, games, internet etc etc

You could also check out other brands but i have my lenovo laptop for i think over 2 years now and i never had any problem with it being slow or anything.
I paid something like 800 euros for mine but i think it is still worth all the money!

I checked out some more laptops and i found another good laptop (highly recommended for Price/Performance)

http://shop.lenovo.c.../g-series/g510/


Lenovo with AVG anti-virus never had any issues with virusses or mallware.
just install mallwarebytes Ccleaner and AVG-anti virus and you will be good to go.

Also i like the program Sublime Text 2 very very much!

BTW dont take a DELL or TOSHIBA my friends had very much problems with laptops from those brands...

currently follow a training to be leading to the ICTer and my school has a 40% lenovo . But much overpowered xD

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Re: good laptop for programming

Posted 24 February 2015 - 02:52 PM

Keep to a known brand.. toshiba, acer, asus, etc. What ever screen you like.. preferably a dual or quad core.. 8gb of ram.. HD of waht ever size.. there are plenty of options out there.

Though your Lenovos were recently being distributed with malware so.. yeah.
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Re: good laptop for programming

Posted 24 February 2015 - 03:40 PM

View PostRamonRobben, on 24 February 2015 - 04:40 PM, said:

You should look for a Lenovo G700 startsup quickly is very fast and does not over-heat that much.

Lenovo is under some scrutiny currently...

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It has a i7-CPU wich allowes multithreading (handy for debugging)

Though you can often get away with an i5 without a noticeable difference.

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It has a NVidia GTX 720 M video card (very handy for testing your games or for second screen)

Are you developing games? Games or other graphically intensive applications will have higher graphics requirements than developing websites.

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8GB of memory (wich is good for debugging programs and for some more stuff)

Get as much memory as you're allowed to, IMO.

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and 1 terrabyte HardDisk. (good for alot of codes xD)

Code takes up almost no space on a hard disk. That said, why not get 1 TB? It's pretty cheap.

If you can swing it (I know you're on a budget), solid state drives are good for speed, heat, noise, and reducing power requirements.
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Re: good laptop for programming

Posted 24 February 2015 - 03:45 PM

Agreed.. 8gb is plenty, and if you can save a bit from dialing back from 16gb RAM and 500gb HD (versus a terabyte) you can probably reinvest that into a better cpu or bigger screen.
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Re: good laptop for programming

Posted 24 February 2015 - 08:21 PM

View PostRamonRobben, on 24 February 2015 - 02:40 PM, said:


Wow thank you very much! That was very informative, Im for sure gonna check out the Lenovo Z50-70 - 1TB - Black and its DVD version.

View Postmodi123_1, on 24 February 2015 - 03:45 PM, said:

Agreed.. 8gb is plenty, and if you can save a bit from dialing back from 16gb RAM and 500gb HD (versus a terabyte) you can probably reinvest that into a better cpu or bigger screen.

Got it. So avoid the 1TB and invest that money for something else. Thank you :D

View Postxclite, on 24 February 2015 - 03:40 PM, said:

Lenovo is under some scrutiny currently...

What do you recommend? I really dont know anything about laptop brands, or any brands at all :(

View Postmodi123_1, on 24 February 2015 - 02:52 PM, said:

Keep to a known brand.. toshiba, acer, asus, etc. What ever screen you like.. preferably a dual or quad core.. 8gb of ram.. HD of waht ever size.. there are plenty of options out there.

Though your Lenovos were recently being distributed with malware so.. yeah.

Ok thanks! Are there certain processors that I should be looking for or avoiding?
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Re: good laptop for programming

Posted 24 February 2015 - 08:21 PM

I mentioned a few above.
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Re: good laptop for programming

Posted 24 February 2015 - 08:26 PM

OH! I have one more question, and please forgive me if this is stupid and does not exist, but is it possible to get a laptop without the touch pad/mouse thing? The reason why I ask this is because I personally do not find it comfortable at all to type with that in the way (I usually have my hands hang off the keyboard).
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Re: good laptop for programming

Posted 24 February 2015 - 08:27 PM

No.. Trackpads are pretty typical.
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Re: good laptop for programming

Posted 24 February 2015 - 08:30 PM

View Postmodi123_1, on 24 February 2015 - 08:27 PM, said:

No.. Trackpads are pretty typical.

Okay, thank you.
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Re: good laptop for programming

Posted 24 February 2015 - 09:31 PM

My usual advice is to focus your money on memory and CPU and get the smallest hard drive you can. Get the machine that will take the most memory, and top it up. Moore's Law has a corollary, that says that the demands of computer applications will always increase fast enough to keep pace with Moore's law. On the other hand, as you've already heard, you really don't need a lot of disk space for programming unless you're working on really huge data - and you're not going to do that on your laptop.

I agree with you on the trackpad problem. You should be able to disable it, either in system settings or with a bit of gaffer's tape. (not duct tape, it'll make a huge mess - spring for the good stuff). Then you can carry your preferred pointing device with you - a mouse or a track ball doesn't take a lot of space in your bag.
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Posted 25 February 2015 - 12:13 AM

I recently shelled out for a Samsung ATIV 8 notebook which runs very well. It has a 1TB HDD (albeit 5400 RPM so is the only bottleneck currently), 8Gb RAM, Quad Core i7 at 2.4Ghz and a 15 inch touch screen monitor with max resolution of 1920 x 1080.

For me personally, the three key ingredients was memory, processor and screen resolution and this ticked all of the boxes. I even upgraded the memory to 16Gb and quite happily run Ubuntu and Windows 7 via VMWare at the same time with no lag. NetBeans and Android Studio work very well on Ubuntu and Visual Studio runs very well on Windows. Like I mentioned though, the 5400 RPM drive is a bottleneck so it isn't the fastest to start up and very large projects in Visual Studio would still take a little time to compile. This can be fixed with an SSD but unfortunately, this notebook only allows for one internal drive so quite a costly upgrade considering the cost of the machine in the first place.

And the trackpad can be disabled by simply pressing FN + F5 :)
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Posted 25 February 2015 - 03:04 AM

my laptop was 300 dollars, removed windows and installed linux. its laggfree, doesnt get warm or anything. everything works as it should still and will for a few more years. startup time is still the same.
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Posted 25 February 2015 - 04:06 AM

View Postben255, on 25 February 2015 - 03:04 AM, said:

my laptop was 300 dollars, removed windows and installed linux. its laggfree, doesnt get warm or anything. everything works as it should still and will for a few more years. startup time is still the same.


If you are installing linux then i would choose for Kali Linux since its a really nice OS
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Re: good laptop for programming

Posted 25 February 2015 - 02:19 PM

A big thing to determine beforehand is what you plan on developing in the next 2~ years. For the most part, most programming can be accomplished on a basic laptop. The other programs are where the need for memory, gpu, and processors come in.

If you want games, the least you should get is a low-end gaming laptop you expect the program to work on.

I personally have a Dell m4800 customized mobile workstation. 16 gb ram, 500 gb SSD, 15.6" 1080x 1920 resolution, running Windows 7 pro with a few VM's running at any given time.
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