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Java Full Stack advice

Posted 16 June 2016 - 09:16 PM

Hi there;

Currently I am working on C# as my course outline advises, it is a .NET Web app development full stack as our instructor claims that most of the things are turning in to Web this is my priority. Later on I will be working on .NET windows app development stack.

I already have learned Java and worked with it. I wanted to know what stack should I pursue for Java, or should I just do whatever I have been doing in the .Net stack. For web and for the app development for phones.

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Re: Java Full Stack advice

Posted 16 June 2016 - 10:01 PM

You seem fond of the terms "stack", "full stack". What do they mean to you?
(Detailing your terms will also help you to formulate a clearer question.)
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Posted 16 June 2016 - 10:30 PM

Not exactly a fond of it, but it seems to be the only term that is used to define your set of tools and languages you use to have a sort of workflow. As in .NET web development has C#, MVC4, JS, CSHTML, CSS, MS-SQL. MEAN that is all Javascript.

It was kind of a vague question, I know. I was looking for something relevant for Java.

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Re: Java Full Stack advice

Posted 16 June 2016 - 10:44 PM

It still isn't clear. You've just listed a range of tools and languages. "Full stack" is a poorly defined (and misappropriated) term, but it doesn't really refer to such a list.

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The term full-stack means developers who are comfortable working with both back-end and front-end technologies.

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It is most often used to refer to a person, not a list. "We want a full-stack developer, but we'll give him/her a Junior position and pay an average wage".

Anyway, perhaps you mean:

What is the typical set of tools and frameworks (and secondary languages) that are typically used to build Web, Desktop and Mobile applications with Java?

Or something similar..
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Re: Java Full Stack advice

Posted 16 June 2016 - 10:59 PM

Yes I should've just said "someone who works with the front-end and the back-end."

Your question is what I was here to find out.

I used to work with JavaSE in eclipse. That was it.

I'll look in to it, sorry for making a thread about it.

Thanks.
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Re: Java Full Stack advice

Posted 16 June 2016 - 11:02 PM

That's okay. Now that the question is a little clearer you might get some responses.
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Re: Java Full Stack advice

Posted 16 June 2016 - 11:07 PM

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As in .NET web development has C#, MVC4, JS, CSHTML, CSS, MS-SQL. MEAN that is all Javascript.

Java web development also requires good knowledge of HTML, CSS and Javascript ;)

What is the main-stream Java alternative to ASP.NET / PHP
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Re: Java Full Stack advice

Posted 16 June 2016 - 11:55 PM

I dont know how to explain what I am actually looking for here. Even if the question is a bit clearer.

I am looking for something that doesn't touch Azure but something relevant to it and tools that allow me to establish a front end workflow with the help of Java and Scala, and the back end such as anything but Azure. That allows me to understand how to establish a simple server to study in that regard.

I was looking for one common Full-stack that is used for Desktop and Mobile development.

If that makes any sense.
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Re: Java Full Stack advice

Posted 17 June 2016 - 10:56 AM

Angular, Spring, Azure, Bootstrap? Like this?
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Posted 17 June 2016 - 11:13 AM

Digging around a little, the default database with Java is Java DB (I think it has another more common name?), but I haven't heard this mentioned much. I was reading that the most commonly used database for enterprises is Oracle, but I'd have thought that MySQL is also high on the list. Excuse my speculation ;) someone might stand to correct me.

Edit: Derby, that's the name I was reaching for. I think that it is its previous name and it is also an Oracle product. (It is rarely mentioned in this forum, questions here tend to be about MySQL, occasionally PostgreSQL.)

Of course, any database could be used as long as there is a driver for it.
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Re: Java Full Stack advice

Posted 17 June 2016 - 07:29 PM

@Ms.Neo; Not Azure. I am going to be learning that already in the end of my semester, and for web dev I have that, as well as Mongodb, React.JS, Angular.JS, Node.JS (I think you can use Modulus to set up a server.) and if possible I can look in to Meteor.JS (heard a lot about it on remote.ok). I'll look in to Spring.JS.

MongoDB seems to be compatible with JAVA as well, and although it sounds funny, but I can use Java and scala together so I guess that sounds like a decent flow

Java Scala and MongoDB for now, seems to be common job requirement

I'll look in to Apache Derby as well.

For Android I will have to bite the bullet and just go for android programming don't I.

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Posted 17 June 2016 - 10:47 PM

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Re: Java Full Stack advice

Posted 18 June 2016 - 04:40 AM

View PostNeoTifa, on 17 June 2016 - 06:56 PM, said:

Angular, Spring, Azure, Bootstrap? Like this?


People use Azure and Spring together? Did not know this was a thing.

Here's the list of what I like working with:
- ASP.NET MVC6
- Aurelia (For frontend single page applications, can be used with ASP.NET too. No angular ;) )
- SASS (CSS preprocessor)
- Gulp (Kinda required nowadays)

ASP.NET MVC6 can of course handle most common websites without needing any other tools.
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Re: Java Full Stack advice

Posted 21 June 2016 - 06:56 AM

Idk, I was just listing stuff.
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