What do you think the future will be for no-code platforms?

  • (4 Pages)
  • +
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • Last »

47 Replies - 3881 Views - Last Post: 19 October 2016 - 08:38 AM

#1 Cazzie  Icon User is offline

  • New D.I.C Head

Reputation: 0
  • View blog
  • Posts: 5
  • Joined: 26-September 16

What do you think the future will be for no-code platforms?

Posted 26 September 2016 - 02:31 AM

What are your thoughts on no-code or low-code software applications and do you think it'll last?
Is This A Good Question/Topic? 0
  • +

Replies To: What do you think the future will be for no-code platforms?

#2 Atli  Icon User is offline

  • Enhance Your Calm
  • member icon

Reputation: 4240
  • View blog
  • Posts: 7,216
  • Joined: 08-June 10

Re: What do you think the future will be for no-code platforms?

Posted 26 September 2016 - 03:03 AM

*
POPULAR

Sounds like just another buzz-word, used by bloggers and pseudo-news sites for link-bait.

You can't create software without defining the logic somehow, and code is a very efficient way to do that. There have been more attempts than you could imagine to "optimize" that using various methods, some more successful than others.

There are plenty of visual tools available now, that professional developers use - and have been using for ages - to take care of much of the grunt work. However I've never seen a realistic, professional grade, no-code or "low-code" (however you define that...) solution. Those only extend far enough to create cookie-cutter applications with little or no customization possible.

We still need the code to make anything more complex. No way around it.
Was This Post Helpful? 11
  • +
  • -

#3 droddey  Icon User is offline

  • New D.I.C Head

Reputation: 7
  • View blog
  • Posts: 39
  • Joined: 25-September 16

Re: What do you think the future will be for no-code platforms?

Posted 26 September 2016 - 11:18 AM

It sort of depends on what 'code' means. Logic can be created without coding. In our own product, users can create quite powerful, interactive touch screen applications without any coding, purely in a point and click environment. But, they still obviously need to understand If/Else and the concept of temporary storage of values (variables or whatever they are called in a given system) and the manipulation thereof. So some understanding of basic logic is obviously required. But no coding at all is required to create quite extensive touch screen applications.

Of course those applications are dedicated to home automation, so there's lots of built in functionality to help them do the things they need to do, sort of a point and click version of a standard library. If you attempted to expand that outwards to full generality, then the bulk of such helper tools would immediately become untenable. Though I guess if it supported the ability to dynamically load third party libraries of such things then that would get around that problem (at the risk of increased instability and security.)

It would never compete with actual coding, but a lot can be done. Not that arguing it SHOULD be done. In our case it's customers creating for themselves, or installers creating for their customers, all bespoke. They aren't trying to create general purpose applications to sell standalone. I would want the folks creating the actual standalone, general purpose software I use to be skilled enough to write the actual code.

Even in the world of 'coding' I worry. I have gotten a bit into more web development lately out of necessity, and I'm amazed at how much of it is just 'run this tool which will download 100 packages, none of which I really understand' and I'll then create a program from that for people to download and run on their systems (no worries there, eh?)
Was This Post Helpful? 3
  • +
  • -

#4 no2pencil  Icon User is offline

  • Professor Snuggly Pants
  • member icon

Reputation: 6627
  • View blog
  • Posts: 30,868
  • Joined: 10-May 07

Re: What do you think the future will be for no-code platforms?

Posted 29 September 2016 - 05:36 AM

I've never heard of such nonsense, & after reading it here from your question, it is not on my radar.
Was This Post Helpful? 1
  • +
  • -

#5 depricated  Icon User is online

  • Nero


Reputation: 2413
  • View blog
  • Posts: 6,096
  • Joined: 13-September 08

Re: What do you think the future will be for no-code platforms?

Posted 29 September 2016 - 09:45 AM

*
POPULAR

"No code" applications are a bit like "no word" books; good for toddlers and rednecks.
Was This Post Helpful? 7
  • +
  • -

#6 NeoTifa  Icon User is offline

  • NeoTifa Codebreaker, the Scourge of Devtester
  • member icon





Reputation: 4186
  • View blog
  • Posts: 18,390
  • Joined: 24-September 08

Re: What do you think the future will be for no-code platforms?

Posted 29 September 2016 - 10:12 AM

Well I am both, so I don't see a problem with this.
Was This Post Helpful? 2
  • +
  • -

#7 no2pencil  Icon User is offline

  • Professor Snuggly Pants
  • member icon

Reputation: 6627
  • View blog
  • Posts: 30,868
  • Joined: 10-May 07

Re: What do you think the future will be for no-code platforms?

Posted 29 September 2016 - 10:14 AM


Was This Post Helpful? 1
  • +
  • -

#8 depricated  Icon User is online

  • Nero


Reputation: 2413
  • View blog
  • Posts: 6,096
  • Joined: 13-September 08

Re: What do you think the future will be for no-code platforms?

Posted 29 September 2016 - 10:18 AM

View PostNeoTifa, on 29 September 2016 - 01:12 PM, said:

Well I am both, so I don't see a problem with this.

You're no-code and no-word?
Was This Post Helpful? 1
  • +
  • -

#9 baavgai  Icon User is online

  • Dreaming Coder
  • member icon


Reputation: 7151
  • View blog
  • Posts: 14,894
  • Joined: 16-October 07

Re: What do you think the future will be for no-code platforms?

Posted 29 September 2016 - 10:43 AM

None. It's kind of like asking the future of no oxygen humans. Perhaps, in the distant future, an anaerobic being related to us might exist, but you wouldn't call it human.
Was This Post Helpful? 0
  • +
  • -

#10 modi123_1  Icon User is online

  • Suitor #2
  • member icon



Reputation: 13955
  • View blog
  • Posts: 55,712
  • Joined: 12-June 08

Re: What do you think the future will be for no-code platforms?

Posted 29 September 2016 - 10:46 AM

Oh hell.. a 'Ghost World' drop. That's all I need on this Thursday.
Was This Post Helpful? 0
  • +
  • -

#11 ArtificialSoldier  Icon User is offline

  • D.I.C Lover
  • member icon

Reputation: 1994
  • View blog
  • Posts: 6,073
  • Joined: 15-January 14

Re: What do you think the future will be for no-code platforms?

Posted 29 September 2016 - 11:43 AM

Quote

You're no-code and no-word?

My safe word is silence. Not the word "silence", like actual silence.
Was This Post Helpful? 3
  • +
  • -

#12 jon.kiparsky  Icon User is offline

  • Beginner
  • member icon


Reputation: 11022
  • View blog
  • Posts: 18,805
  • Joined: 19-March 11

Re: What do you think the future will be for no-code platforms?

Posted 29 September 2016 - 01:30 PM

"No-code" sounds great for end users. If you can use the product without having to know magical incantations, that's great. It'll never be a way to develop products, though.
Was This Post Helpful? 1
  • +
  • -

#13 depricated  Icon User is online

  • Nero


Reputation: 2413
  • View blog
  • Posts: 6,096
  • Joined: 13-September 08

Re: What do you think the future will be for no-code platforms?

Posted 29 September 2016 - 04:44 PM

like a no-assembly computer.
Was This Post Helpful? 0
  • +
  • -

#14 astonecipher  Icon User is offline

  • Senior Systems Engineer
  • member icon

Reputation: 2483
  • View blog
  • Posts: 9,965
  • Joined: 03-December 12

Re: What do you think the future will be for no-code platforms?

Posted 29 September 2016 - 07:22 PM

One of the tech conferences I went to was touting this. Think about that for a second, a company trying to sell applications that are with a drag and drop interface in a room of 300+ developers, system admins, and networking people, needless to say, it didn't go over to well.


I view this type of thing like wix, it's great when what you want fits in the little box they give you. If it doesnt, someone is making the code to give you that option.
Was This Post Helpful? 0
  • +
  • -

#15 Cazzie  Icon User is offline

  • New D.I.C Head

Reputation: 0
  • View blog
  • Posts: 5
  • Joined: 26-September 16

Re: What do you think the future will be for no-code platforms?

Posted 29 September 2016 - 10:24 PM

For Business and IT, I think that low-code platforms that strategic business partners can read and understand the logic are invaluable and a great asset to an organization. Yes it must hurt the developers, because they will no longer be needed in the business, but they are the ones behind coding these low-code platforms. Which is pretty amazing. Isn't it all about making things simpler, better and faster?

If businesses who use these low-code platforms can build customized systems in half the time, they can focus on other key business areas, not to mention the cost savings involved and the increased ROI.

It's not about cutting out the dev's, its about the dev's creating a platform that is easy to use, for non-developers and strategic business heads.
Was This Post Helpful? 0
  • +
  • -

  • (4 Pages)
  • +
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • Last »