[nutter]

my code

<?php
$x = "1";
if (x==1){
echo "online";
}else{
echo "offline";
};
?>

what i am trying to do is get when x=1 the txt to say online
but n e thing else then it says offline
problem is that it only displays offline nomatter what x is
anyhelp?

[dontKnowJava]

take quotes off 1. just make it $x = 1; and add $ in front of x in if statement if ($x==1){

This post has been edited by dontKnowJava: 03 January 2008 - 10:39 AM

[snoj]

I swear, people just don't pay attention.

The problem is not the the quotation marks. The problem is that there is no $ in front of the x in the if statement.

There could also be a problem with the ; after the last } of the if..else block. Don't know, but it's not necessary.

[nutter]

thank you
i remember now i put the x witout $ bcoz u fo it like that in c++ keep gettin them convused ll
so thanks for your help
i am also unshure bout last ;

[no2pencil]

Quote

I swear, people just don't pay attention.

Too soon after new years. Still have the party-left-overs.

<?php
  $status="offline";
  $x = 1;
  if ($x==1) $status="online";
  printf("%s\n",$status);
?>

This post has been edited by no2pencil: 03 January 2008 - 11:16 AM

[darklighter]

no2pencil, on 3 Jan, 2008 - 11:13 AM, said:

Quote

I swear, people just don't pay attention.

Too soon after new years. Still have the party-left-overs.

<?php
  $status="offline";
  $x = 1;
  if ($x==1) $status="online";
  printf("%s\n",$status);
?>

Lol pencil, your code would confuse the crap out of newbies.

Just let them go with this until they get better:

<?php
  $x = '1';
  if ($x=='1'){
		echo "online";
  }else{
		echo "offline";
  }
?>

[Amadeus]

Why would it confuse them? seems pretty mundane.

[darklighter]

Noobs, have no idea what printf is, nor what "%s\n" does.
Think back to your first day as a coder

Especially in php i find it necessary to always show the easy way, because users always go back to edit their code later.

It seems to me most heavy duty programmers write their code using short variable names, and structure for their ability level when newbies really have no idea how to work with that. I always try writing my code "stupid proof"

[Amadeus]

I do remember my first day as a coder...and using references when I needed them. New programmers may not be as 'stupid' as you seem to think - otherwise they'd never develop into talented developers, correct?

[darklighter]

Amadeus, on 5 Jan, 2008 - 09:12 AM, said:

I do remember my first day as a coder...and using references when I needed them. New programmers may not be as 'stupid' as you seem to think - otherwise they'd never develop into talented developers, correct?

Lol, i dunno man, my company's been looking for good programmers to join us.
We find people who claim 3-4 years php/frontend experience and they don't even know styling/css (more frontend) and they often don't kow OOPHP, nor how to properly use functions.
Hell, i doubt they even knew what the difference is between print and echo, heh.

I assume people are dumb until they prove me otherwise, this way they learn if they don't know stuff and they find my help easy if they're not dumb

[Amadeus]

darklighter, on 5 Jan, 2008 - 11:31 AM, said:

Lol, i dunno man, my company's been looking for good programmers to join us.
We find people who claim 3-4 years php/frontend experience and they don't even know styling/css (more frontend) and they often don't kow OOPHP, nor how to properly use functions.
Hell, i doubt they even knew what the difference is between print and echo, heh.

In that case, I would suggest your company is either not offering enough money, or targeting the wrong talent pool. Functions are basic knowledge, and anyone with 2-3 WEEKS of experience would know how to use them.

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I assume people are dumb until they prove me otherwise, this way they learn if they don't know stuff and they find my help easy if they're not dumb

Well, I can't agree with that approach - it seems guaranteed to offend if you treat everyone as dumb, but to each his own, I suppose.

[no2pencil]

I've found the best way to learn new (& usefull) technologies is to actually use it.

Granted a noob may not know what printf is. But if they know what php.net is, they'll soon find out.

[darklighter]

Heh, my company seeks good talent, it's the people applying who just aren't good.

As far as offending people, in order to be a leader of sheep we must be sheep ourselves.
If they cannot be meek and accept that things written simply are easier to understand and are not meant to offend but to teach and enhance their skills, then that's their problem.

I write code that's easy to follow and read, and btw, most people don't know how to properly use functions for at least 6 months or so because they start coding using someone else's crappy code written 5 years ago and by the time they realize it's crap, 6 months have gone by and hopefully they'll have met someone with more experience to teach them proper coding.

I'd say 90% of so-called coders out there are just script kiddies and don't actually know how to write code from scratch and we can't teach them by tossing our complex code at them. They have to learn by looking at easy code and then slowly improving their skill.

Don't you tend to look back at your old code and go "damn, my old code sucks" ?
It's only when we improve our skills that we realize how unskilled we were before.

[Amadeus]

Again, it sounds like your company is targeting self taught coders, as opposed to developers. Perhaps if you insisted on some formal education in software development as pre requisite for applying, the talent pool may improve. Anyone who has had any sort of development education would understand functions long before the 6 month mark.

For the record, I stated NOT that your habit of writing easy to understand simple code that would offend - it's your attitude. That's simply my opinion, however, and is no more or less valid that any other. A moot point anyway, since I'm not a new programmer, and won't be subjected to it.

[darklighter]

lol, fine, you win :-D