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Time Warner Cable is planning to bill based on their amount of usage

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Good buy leechers!

Posted 17 January 2008 - 12:55 PM

Taken from http://news.yahoo.co...ner_internet_dc

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Time Warner Cable Inc said on Wednesday it is planning a trial to bill high-speed Internet subscribers based on their amount of usage rather than a flat fee, the standard industry practice.

The second largest U.S. cable operator said it will test consumption-based billing with subscribers in Beaumont, Texas later this year as a part of a strategy to help reduce congestion of its network by a minority of consumers who pay the same monthly fee as light users.

The company believes the billing system will impact only heavy users, who account for around 5 percent of all customers but typically use more than half of the total network bandwidth, according to a company spokesman.

Slowing network congestion due to downloading of large media files such as video is a growing problem for Time Warner Cable. The company said the problem will worsen as video downloading becomes more popular.

But the move could prove controversial. Unlike with utility bills such as the phone or electricity, which have traditionally been based on usage, U.S. high-speed Internet subscribers have come to expect a fixed monthly charge. An Internet bill typically only varies based on the speed of the consumer's Internet access.

Time Warner Cable, which has 7.4 million residential Internet subscribers, is hoping the move will not confuse consumers if introduced nationwide and is planning a trial period.

"Largely, people won't notice the difference," said the Time Warner Cable spokesman. "We don't want customers to feel they're getting less for more." News of Time Warner Cable's plans was originally leaked on an online industry forum BroadbandReports.com.

Other cable operators may follow Time Warner Cable's lead and phone companies such as Verizon Communications Inc and AT&T Inc are likely to be watching the New York-based cable operator's plans.

As U.S. consumers have become more used to streaming and downloading digital media over the Web, their Internet service providers have started to come under pressure to be able to keep up with growing demand in a cost-effective manner.

Comcast Corp, the largest cable operator with around 13 million Internet subscribers, has been accused by consumer groups of blocking Web traffic moving across its networks, prompting a notice of inquiry by the Federal Communications Commission earlier this week.

Comcast denies it blocks any Internet traffic saying it uses bandwidth management technology to help improve the customer experience but which may slow down some file transfers.


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Posted 17 January 2008 - 01:33 PM

'testing it' for a national roll-out.

LOVE IT.
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Posted 17 April 2009 - 06:30 PM

http://www.savethein...e-giant-blinks/

And of course we win some.
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Posted 19 April 2009 - 07:26 PM

awesome... telecom is an interesting area. It seems as though cell phone companies are ripping us off big time, and yet they still are "in trouble" and cable companies are all pissed off that we have found new uses for the internet.

It is funny because the world is changing. What "the people" feel is fair and right is shifting.
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Posted 19 April 2009 - 09:03 PM

You know, I am going to go out on a limb here and say this is a full blown revolution. Not just a revolution as you may seen on TV being tossed around or written in your standard newspaper article. I am talking a full scale radical shift in perception.

For the past 50 or so years the growth of America, and many other countries in the world, has largely been stagnant and built around the conception of a "corporation" and traditional nuclear family style values. I am guessing based on the ideas of the 1950's.

Now the people have waken up and really taken matters into their own hands. Not just IT, we are talking many aspects of our lives. What we buy, what we expose ourselves to, furthering green energy, making stands in oppressive countries. All helped by computing and our information sharing. Things are changing fast and you will notice that all the people who are playing catch up and throwing their little fits are those companies and people still trying to hold onto the corporation ideology.

The people are going to win this. They should just try and plan for their business models to change. It is all about people controlling their own exposure and sharing ideas with one another. I think if we can survive this global warming issue, we will eventually be so fully connected that we will virtually be living in our worlds customized by us.

Just a few ideas I wanted to share. :)

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 04:36 AM

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Comcast denies it blocks any Internet traffic saying it uses bandwidth management technology


Don't you love when they contradict themselves in the same sentence? :P

The problem is, in many areas, the "cable company" is essentially a monopoly; it's the only game available. The cable versus phone thing is the only thing keeping the cable company, and the phone company for that matter, trying to keep any consumer good will. May that war never end.

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 10:37 AM

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You know, I am going to go out on a limb here and say this is a full blown revolution. Not just a revolution as you may seen on TV being tossed around or written in your standard newspaper article. I am talking a full scale radical shift in perception.


I too have felt this. There is a definite energy of rapid shits in ideals going on. I have been meaning to really find the time to really take a look at this and get a feel for it but I don't really have time, and it is happening really rapidly. Everywhere I turn my attention to I see these shifts.

I mean IT, air travel, entertainment, science, politics -- the old models are breaking down, peoples expectations are shifting, people are waking up a little (My eavesdropping has picked up many more issue conscious conversations going on around me).

I don't think your wrong about the revolution... there are some huge social and economic changes in the works.
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Posted 22 April 2009 - 02:52 PM

Win! I would have switched providers if Time Warner went through with it.
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Posted 22 April 2009 - 04:13 PM

Why don't any of the providers

We guarantee you a bitrate of X +/- Y %
eg 10MBps +/-10%
or
A minimum bitrate of X.
Min. 10MBbps
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Posted 22 April 2009 - 04:15 PM

If there was a guaranteed level of service, I might be interested, but no company is going to do that.
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Posted 22 April 2009 - 05:25 PM

They seem to be doing what the mobile phone companies did with data services. Now with 3G network they charge you monthly rate for an allowed amount of data, then charge you more if you go over.

Put on my Sticking To Man Hat On. The reason they want to change is they believe they'll increase revenue and more profit.

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Posted 24 April 2009 - 09:09 AM

View PostKYA, on 22 Apr, 2009 - 10:15 PM, said:

If there was a guaranteed level of service, I might be interested, but no company is going to do that.


Digital Region

I live in this area and I think this going the be the start of something BIG.
Been having thoughts of Microsoft building a part of the Window Azure infrastructure (ie a Data Center) in the town.

Should also note the a private commercial company VirginMedia has a 50Mb network currently in the my town, with higher speed coming.
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Posted 26 April 2009 - 08:17 AM

NickDMax said:

There is a definite energy of rapid shits in ideals going on.

lol, you mean shifts? ;)
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Posted 27 April 2009 - 11:29 AM

i laughed pretty hard when i saw that.
but the cable providers where im from limit our download if they notice we are using bit torrent. They promise that we will reviece our high speed but we get throttled constantly down to 300 kb/s and thats not even when we use bit torrent. when being a pirate (arrrr) we get cut down to about 60kb/s
i want that open acces 25mb
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Posted 28 April 2009 - 05:31 AM

NickDMax said:

There is a definite energy of rapid shits in ideals going on.


Ahhh... Firefox doesnt pick that up.


Good article though.
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