How steep is the learning curve switching to MAC

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How steep is the learning curve switching to MAC

Posted 12 July 2008 - 10:46 PM

I've used a "PC" since 84,
After several versions of DOS
Windows 3.1, 95, 98, 2000 and xp, I was annoyed but satisfied.

VISTA however, has made the decision for me, I'm buying a MAC.

My questions is not an argument over which is better,
but simply,


Is it a major retraining to learn to do everything on a mac?
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Re: How steep is the learning curve switching to MAC

Posted 12 July 2008 - 10:55 PM

It's hard to say since I've had next to no experience using a Mac.

A friend of mine needed some help, I asked him how to get a terminal open & he replied "What's that?"

Question, since you have not listed Linux/Unix, I'll guess you have not tried that. Any reason why not? I only ask because your PC experience dates back to DOS, so using Linux should have that feel. The OS & the GUI are separate & ect.
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Re: How steep is the learning curve switching to MAC

Posted 12 July 2008 - 10:55 PM

I don't even know if I should start this, but why not use Vista?
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Re: How steep is the learning curve switching to MAC

Posted 12 July 2008 - 11:12 PM

RE Linux. I just assumed linux was very difficult to learn.

RE why not vista? I bought a brand new 1.something ghz laptop with 2gb mem with VISTA that performs WAY slower than a 10yr old p133 running win95

I called acer and asked them how to put xp on it, they refused to offer any advice, saying they do not support xp

Back to linux, i am using a laptop, i'd go to xp if i could find all the drivers and stuff to make it work,, any chance of getting linux to run on a laptop?
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Re: How steep is the learning curve switching to MAC

Posted 12 July 2008 - 11:17 PM

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any chance of getting linux to run on a laptop?

Yeah, that's always been a bitch with me (First Ubuntu and now Bactrack, maybe). If you are considering doing that, do some research and see if your drivers are made for Linux. (My Wi-Fi card was like that for every model but mine.)

EDIT: Yeah, my laptop (3 gigs RAM and 2 Ghz processor) would probably be a lot faster with XP. But I like the security that Vista has to offer. (And the sidebar.)

ANOTHER EDIT: Dude Linux rocks if you take a little bit of time to learn how it works. It's not that hard.

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Re: How steep is the learning curve switching to MAC

Posted 12 July 2008 - 11:20 PM

View Postthompson03, on 13 Jul, 2008 - 02:12 AM, said:

Back to linux, i am using a laptop, i'd go to xp if i could find all the drivers and stuff to make it work,, any chance of getting linux to run on a laptop?

Same answer as Vista. Depends on the laptop. If it's a $300 to $400 laptop, then it probably has Vista dependent hardware such as nic & sound card. Google it 1st before you do anything, see what success others have had with that specific model laptop.

My 1st experience with Linux was a laptop, & since I've put it on somewhere around 5 laptops with little to no trouble. Linux is as easy as being able to read & follow directions. If you can do that, no problems. If you can't, then it's best to stick with Windows/Mac. Sorry to stray the conversation, but I don't have any answers to the direct question posted.

Best of luck, either way you go!
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Re: How steep is the learning curve switching to MAC

Posted 12 July 2008 - 11:24 PM

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If you can't, then it's best to stick with Windows/Mac

Sometimes I just don't want to worry about it, so I dual-boot. (I've been using Windows since I was what, 5?)

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Re: How steep is the learning curve switching to MAC

Posted 13 July 2008 - 12:16 AM

As a 10-year Microsoft user I would say that the switch was more than easy. At first it's a little confusing the way the OS interacts with you, but after my first week I'll never switch back to Windows/Linux, because I've got the sleek UI and ease of use, and the pros of UNIX system.
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Re: How steep is the learning curve switching to MAC

Posted 13 July 2008 - 09:32 AM

Anything new is going to have a learning curve.

OS X may be a little easier simply because it'll be installed and set up properly when you get it.

Unless you're buying a machine with Vista, you'll have to set that up yourself (finding drivers can be rough).

Installing most Linux distros isn't too bad. If you're unlucky you might have to do a little work.
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Posted 13 July 2008 - 11:21 PM

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If you're unlucky you might have to do a little work.

Not even that. Ubuntu practically read my mind.
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Re: How steep is the learning curve switching to MAC

Posted 14 July 2008 - 08:55 AM

Well you didnt need drivers, I on the other hand needed a driver for my graphics card and my wireless, so it was quite a pain to get them.
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Re: How steep is the learning curve switching to MAC

Posted 14 July 2008 - 09:48 AM

Mac users use macs, how hard could it possibly be? ;)

As to Linux, WalMart ships it on a number of it's machines. Not some esteric geek centric shop, but ubiquitous, homogenized, "don't carry that's cuz it's scary", WalMart. They use some less than inspired Ubuntu derivative called gOs.

I have gOs on my CloudBook. Or should I say my wife's cloudbook, because she won't let go of the thing. She doesn't really like computers and starts to get edgy when I talk about things like puting folders in folders. However, she loves the her little Linux based UMPC with auto wifi detection, firefox and openoffice (which we use on Windows already) and all the other little toys you could reasonably want.

For better or worse, there isn't that much innovation among the desktop environments anymore. This means they're pretty much interchangeable in concept, if not clothing.

When Linux is installed and setup correctly, it's probably about as good any of them. If it fails, it will roll over show you it's scary unixy underbelly. However, others don't die so pretty either, so it may not be an issue. I can always recover from a linux box crash, for some windows crashes the only viable option is reinstallation.
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Re: How steep is the learning curve switching to MAC

Posted 14 July 2008 - 09:58 AM

Macs are really simple to use, I had to use them in college.

@no2:
He couldn't find a terminal? The damn thing is actually called terminal if I remember right..
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Posted 15 July 2008 - 07:58 PM

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If it fails, it will roll over show you it's scary unixy underbelly.

LMAO- I don't want to see that.
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Re: How steep is the learning curve switching to MAC

Posted 15 July 2008 - 09:43 PM

View Postthompson03, on 12 Jul, 2008 - 10:46 PM, said:

I've used a "PC" since 84,
After several versions of DOS
Windows 3.1, 95, 98, 2000 and xp, I was annoyed but satisfied.

VISTA however, has made the decision for me, I'm buying a MAC.

My questions is not an argument over which is better,
but simply,


Is it a major retraining to learn to do everything on a mac?


Absolutely! I have a Mac; but I have to use my husband's PC for school. In many ways, I actually prefer Windows. The learning curve was very steep for me - everything's backwards, the mouse (one button)sucks (get a real mouse, first thing), you can't decorate your desktop (no cute cursors! That spinning wheel is just boring), and software costs more (this may be improving now that Mac is more Windows Friendly). Also, Apple is really proprietary about things(I won't have anything to do with ITunes as far as downloading from them. I want control of my own music.)

It looks cool, it's incredibly stable, I like widgets. The monitor's huge. The software that came bundled with, was pretty impressive (I got it mostly for GarageBand, although it didn't come with Backup software or a Defrag program- crazy!)

Now bear in mind I've had it for a few years...IMAC running OSX Tiger. I'm sure alot has changed. I bought it online, "refurbished". It's been good as gold.

Bottom Line:

Like everything, it has pros and cons. If I had it to do over, I'm not entirely sure I would get a Mac again; however, I'm not miserable that I have it. My biggest beef with it right now, is not even its fault. Our home network's not configured very well, and I think it needs fine tuning...reallllly slow internet.

Hope this helps... :)
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