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I can't believe I saw it here first...

Posted 23 July 2008 - 06:11 AM

- Moving pairs

Given something like a checkers board, moving pairs would be checker pieces
paired together and arranged on the board so they each checker piece is said to be paired with another.

The pairs don't have to be next to eachother, they can arrange on the board in any awy.

Any way arranged is fair for how this works, but it matters for how they work.

There's no such thing as an empty space among pairs for how you consider them together.

They are the idea of how they move, and the problem with finding how
to move them, and how they work being together.

- Moving a pair

Pick a pair to move.

Each of the pair is to move together at the same time.

A pair together can only move to another pair together.

A pair moves to another pair, and each of the pair becomes paired with
each of the other pair. So now both pairs are new pairs, with the
pair that moved to another pair not being a pair anymore, both of the
pair to move
becomes a new pair with the pair that has to move for where they move to.

A pair moves to another pair, but the other pair is what moves away at
the same time.

A pair moves to another pair, the pair it moves to has to move at the
same time to another pair. So when moving a pair to another pair, that
pair has to move too.

So the pair to move to another pair becomes a new pair, each of the
pair to move to another pair
becomes part of a new pair with the pair that they move to. The pair
they move to is the pair to move to another pair at the same time.

You can't know what any pair's first move is until you know it's last move.

There's nowhere to think in the way moving pairs can move how it has
any inbetween to stop moving. It's always that a pair moving is making
another pair move, and is having a pair move it.

For any pair there's always one way to move it.

To think of pairs in the middle of moving is to think of needing to
know the end and beginning at the same time. Because a pair is
moving when a pair moved it, and is moving another pair where it's going.
But it's going where a pair can move to another pair, and coming from having a pair move it.
So a pair to move is moving where it can go, where another pair can move from, where it gets to there being
a pair that can move to where the first pair left.

When a pair moves it's what is moving away from what had to move it,
and is moving what needs to move at the same time for where it's going.

Each time a pair is moved, all the pairs involved in moving are
alternated as pairs. So a pair when moved makes all pairs that have to move at the same
time paired another way.

You can't know how a pair moves, it's to figure out as the problem
they have. The last pair to move has to be figured before the first
pair to move has a place to move.

All the pairs have a way to move, but may involve more or less of the
other pairs to move at the same time.

So a pair can be moved, but it's to figure out how to make it move.

So....

|55|66|55|
|44|44|66|

Move pair 44 44. Choice is either 66 66 or 55 55 depending on what can work.
44 44 can move to 55 55, only if 55 55 can move to 66 66, and 66 66 can move where 44 44 is to start.
so try... 44 44 moves to 55 55. Now the 44 44 pair becomes paired with 55 55.
So now the 44 44 pair are a pair each with 55 55, and 44 44 is where 55 55 was.
55 55 went to another pair, the pair they went to has to move to another pair and switch being a pair with them.

It's always that a pair is moving to another pair, that got moved by a pair, that's moving another pair at the same time. Even the pair to
move first, because the last pair to move has to go where the first pair moves from at the same time.

The last pair to go where the first pair moves from is never a pair together once they get there.

So to know the first move is to know the last move, because the first move is where it works around to the last move, and the last pair to move is what can go where the first pair left.

It's to try any way that works, but only one way works at making a round trip.

- Moving pairs are a machine

They can be arranged in any way so that the way to move a pair is to have to move others too. So between all pairs they have an
arrangement strategy that carries a way to work at being rearranged. A way where to work at being rearranged is to be able to
rearrange in any other ways, but always able to make it back to the same arrangement. They follow a way to rearrange like a machine
in a different condition.

Pairs can store how to associate any letter with any number by having
it so some pairs say a letter and other pairs say a number, so how you
move some pairs to say which letter is for some other pairs to move to
say which number.

Any pair that is moved can make it so other pairs to move have another
way for how they move.

Pairs that work in moving together can be close or far apart, so they
extend across the idea of how it's a machine as much as can make sense
for any way to have a machine work.

Given all the pairs that move together, any of them to move makes them all move together, and given another move to a pair that's
together in moving it works around varying arrangements until it's arranged the same again, but moving starting with another pair
changes how another pair moves in differencing arrangement.

See how a pair to move is to make another pair move differently? See how that's part of the machine to move but also another part
moved? See how they overlap where part of the machine is part with another, but to move is to move another part?

If there is a part of a machine to move on it's own, isn't that to move another part too? Maybe that's to see a way different than how a machine runs, because of how a machine has integrity together. It seems a part of a machine that can be said together is a connected condition. Where it can be said that for the way the machine is in one place, is considerate of the way a machine has a condition to be in
somewhere else.

- Machine diagram

See each pair for how it can be moved with all the pairs that have to move togther. See other pairs together be some of the
same pairs together another way.

Draw for each pair a diagram of how each piece moves to another. Make it a complete circuit for each pair.
A pair chosen first should show one of the pair going somewhere, and the other of the pair having something come to it.
Any pair should show a few other places to start from that involve it.

See where they overlap as connected as a part of the machine together with another part of the machine. See it the way that it's a part
of the machine that moves another part of the machine, but each there own part. So see that as a seperate part but overlapping another
part.

For the way a pair can move, all the pairs to move together are a connected condition. Together the way where it's part of the machine
to say for another part of the machine how to be.

Say for each group of pairs that move together a line that connects them, where all pairs are together this way. So it should be that all pairs together diagram as how they would
move with lines together that draw what looks like a diagram for a working machine.

- The trick

See the machine diagram? Make a pair move then see the machine diagram again (figure out how they all move again).

How did the machine move? See how it's the same machine? See how other pairs move differently now? Like it's the whole machine
moved, but without running?

Enjoy :)

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#2 Nova Dragoon  Icon User is offline

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Re: I can't believe I saw it here first...

Posted 23 July 2008 - 06:57 AM

what?
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Re: I can't believe I saw it here first...

Posted 23 July 2008 - 07:03 AM

Summary for those who don't have time to read all this :

-Moving Pairs

blah blah blah...

Enjoy :)


Sorry, but that's all I understood. :D
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Re: I can't believe I saw it here first...

Posted 23 July 2008 - 07:04 AM

I should have added this too



A pair with what moves at the same time also finds what moves at the same time for another pair to be moved when it's moved. You can see how the way they overlap is, it's how a condition connected together is some of another condition, and made to be a different condition is another connected condition made to be different. Like, parts of the machine overlap using the same pairs where the condition of a part is respectful to the condition of another part. So for the pairs that are moved that are part of another connected condition is the other part in another condition like it matters for the condition one part is in for the condition another part is in.

Can you see how a machine is altogether the way where any part of the machine is in one condition that matches only one condition another part can be in? and how a part of the machine changed to another condition is for the next part of the machine to only have one condition that can match?
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Re: I can't believe I saw it here first...

Posted 23 July 2008 - 07:07 AM

Non of you posts ends below 10-15 lines. What are you? A typing machine? :blink:
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Re: I can't believe I saw it here first...

Posted 23 July 2008 - 07:08 AM

I think it's to try a few ways to draw a diagram...


see how the diagram is after moving a pair though? as if the diagram of all pairs together is one machine? so see moving one pair then the diagram again?

a diagram of each pair where it goes to another to move it.
or the pairs that move together just as, but others.
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Re: I can't believe I saw it here first...

Posted 23 July 2008 - 07:33 AM

No offense, but I really can't be arsed to read all of that. I blame my short attention span...

What is it that you're on about, in less than 3 lines?
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Re: I can't believe I saw it here first...

Posted 23 July 2008 - 07:41 AM

View Postgabehabe, on 23 Jul, 2008 - 08:03 PM, said:

No offense, but I really can't be arsed to read all of that. I blame my short attention span...

What is it that you're on about, in less than 3 lines?



Sorry, he can't do that. This typing machine is programmed to print at least 10-15 lines at a time. ;)
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Re: I can't believe I saw it here first...

Posted 23 July 2008 - 07:44 AM

Damn
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Re: I can't believe I saw it here first...

Posted 23 July 2008 - 08:25 AM

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Re: I can't believe I saw it here first...

Posted 23 July 2008 - 08:49 AM

ok can someone promise me that if i go back and read all that, that I'll gain some satisfaction out of it? That or just that my head won't implode? kthxbai
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Re: I can't believe I saw it here first...

Posted 23 July 2008 - 08:50 AM

no comprendo
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Re: I can't believe I saw it here first...

Posted 23 July 2008 - 10:23 AM

View Postgabehabe, on 23 Jul, 2008 - 07:44 AM, said:

Damn
Damn
Damn
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for(int i=1;i<=15;i++)
cout<<"Damn"<<endl;


this should work better ;)
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Posted 23 July 2008 - 10:46 AM

yes trakker.

i promise that.

muahahahaha
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Re: I can't believe I saw it here first...

Posted 23 July 2008 - 11:51 AM

Oh, come on guys, don't you understand? It's all about pairs. Didn't you see the machine diagram? :rolleyes: :sarcasm:

I think he should've said "pair" a few more times though.

Seriously...I'm glad I'm not the only one who read it and couldn't make a lick of sense out of it.

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