In, my school I got started out with a book on ruby, so far I think its a pain, but thats cause I don't have logic or something and I am a complete beginner, I don't even know how to ask questions (noone understands me). it just makes me want to smash my brains in.
i just soo understand you. hope someday i will be able to ask the questions properly. and the real pain is-as soon as you start learning one language there are milion more out there.
that can get pretty confusing. i feel that all i do is learning, and none of the languages i have studied i donno "inside out". i really dont know how many years that might take.