[oasisjoel]

IM very new at C# what pl do I need to dl to try c#.. I hope that system req for the pl is not that big..

[no2pencil]

Updated title to be more descriptive.

[ValPaliy]

Hello! Welcome! It's not. Go ahead and install it! :-)

[PsychoCoder]

Hello and welcome to Dream.In.Code oasisjoel, hope you enjoy your stay.

Remember, we have many C# experts here to help you along the way, as long as you're willing to help yourself as well. As far as what to download and install, I would start with C# Express Editions. It's free from Microsoft and gives a pretty good IDE for creating C# applications.

Start there, then let us know if you need any help as you move along

Hope that helps

[ThekillingGoku]

Yeah, well. The express versions don't run too heavy.
But I can defenately say that Visual Studio ain't exactly the lightest beast on the block. Even the express versions. I've worked with IDE's that consume less power for sure.
I'm currently stuck working on a rather old pc at work (single core Pentium M 1.73GHz & 1,5GB memory) and it's defenately noticeable.

Also, the highly regarded ReSharper has been installed as of late, but that one really takes things over the top and actually my PC is waaaaaaay too weak now, but having ReSharper is just so bloody handy.

Anyway, for the express versions your system won't need to sweat too much, a professional version runs a bit heavier in my experience and when you start installing add-ons it all depends on the add-on of course, but things can get really bad.

[ValPaliy]

ThekillingGoku, on 20 Nov, 2008 - 02:31 AM, said:

Yeah, well. The express versions don't run too heavy.
But I can defenately say that Visual Studio ain't exactly the lightest beast on the block. Even the express versions. I've worked with IDE's that consume less power for sure.
I'm currently stuck working on a rather old pc at work (single core Pentium M 1.73GHz & 1,5GB memory) and it's defenately noticeable.

Also, the highly regarded ReSharper has been installed as of late, but that one really takes things over the top and actually my PC is waaaaaaay too weak now, but having ReSharper is just so bloody handy.

Anyway, for the express versions your system won't need to sweat too much, a professional version runs a bit heavier in my experience and when you start installing add-ons it all depends on the add-on of course, but things can get really bad.

Any others except ReSharper you might suggest? Preferebly free. Thanks!
P.S. I am using VS 2008 Express - good IDE, IMHO ;-)

[ThekillingGoku]

ValPaliy, on 20 Nov, 2008 - 02:36 AM, said:

ThekillingGoku, on 20 Nov, 2008 - 02:31 AM, said:

Yeah, well. The express versions don't run too heavy.
But I can defenately say that Visual Studio ain't exactly the lightest beast on the block. Even the express versions. I've worked with IDE's that consume less power for sure.
I'm currently stuck working on a rather old pc at work (single core Pentium M 1.73GHz & 1,5GB memory) and it's defenately noticeable.

Also, the highly regarded ReSharper has been installed as of late, but that one really takes things over the top and actually my PC is waaaaaaay too weak now, but having ReSharper is just so bloody handy.

Anyway, for the express versions your system won't need to sweat too much, a professional version runs a bit heavier in my experience and when you start installing add-ons it all depends on the add-on of course, but things can get really bad.

Any others except ReSharper you might suggest? Preferebly free. Thanks!
P.S. I am using VS 2008 Express - good IDE, IMHO ;-)

Well, honestly, that's why they're express versions. It's the same with SQLServer Express. Basically most tools are written for Visual Studio and the express versions aren't really real Visual Studio versions.
I'll clarify what I mean by that. Basically the express versions operate completely different from the actual full versions (starting from the standard version). After all, they decided they wanted to be able to install a full VS together with any/all express versions, so this is possible. Which concretely means their exe's are different. I've come in contact with the actual details on this before, but I'm not gonna write it all out.

What this means to the end user is that many tools simply don't work for express versions.
For example, Red Gate's SQLServer enhancements aren't gonna work on the express version of the database.
Also, I believe the express versions of Visual Studio don't even support add-ins at all. Probably the same with SQLServer, but not sure, never checked.
Basically if you stop to think of it, that's rather normal. If you're really gonna use the free IDE, it's unlikely you'll be buying any extra add-ins either.

Anyway, if you still wanna check, a free tool which adds some functionality to the IDE is Exact Magic's StudioTools (http://www.exactmagi...ts/studiotools/)
and visual studio's Modeling Power Toys add some functionality to the class diagram editor (which is also absent in the express versions).
Then there's still the free source control from AnckhSVN (http://ankhsvn.open.collab.net/) of which I'm very content so far.
Of course there're many more tools, but one only uses so much ya know. Resharper's a refactoring tool, of which there are also a few more commercial examples, but of course, not free.

Like I said, you're limited with the express versions, but it's free.

This post has been edited by ThekillingGoku: 20 November 2008 - 04:16 AM

[ValPaliy]

Thanks for the tips, ThekillingGoku! I'll check :-)

[oasisjoel]

Hi guys thanks for the encouragement and support. I downloaded and installed MV C# express, Silverlight and SQL express.. As a starter what project or projects should I start making first. My goal is to know and try to connect C# with sql..
I hope I could reach my goal..
Ill try my best.. Any expert suggestions?
By the way does anyone know a rookie guide for c#? tnx

[zakary]

PsychoCoder wrote a C# Tutorial on SQL Basics and C# it is located here:

http://www.dreaminco...wtopic31314.htm

[oasisjoel]

zakary, on 20 Nov, 2008 - 05:58 AM, said:

PsychoCoder wrote a C# Tutorial on SQL Basics and C# it is located here:

http://www.dreaminco...wtopic31314.htm

Aw thats quite too advance im starting in basics

This post has been edited by oasisjoel: 20 November 2008 - 05:27 PM

[oasisjoel]

What is the use += and -= I forgot ty

What is the use of System.Double.Parse???

And what is the use of ".Parse"?

This post has been edited by oasisjoel: 20 November 2008 - 05:48 PM

[badjava]

oasisjoel, on 20 Nov, 2008 - 04:47 PM, said:

What is the use += and -= I forgot ty

What is the use of System.Double.Parse???

And what is the use of ".Parse"?

Grab yourself a c# book and start reading, that's the best thing you can do along with the 'getting started' bits of VS and the tutorials and videos you will find online and on here.

Check out the head first book here at amazon, i think u can get one starting at $26

Also I always advocate torrents for beginning programmers, just make sure to give back and buy some manuals when you have skillz and make some dough

[oasisjoel]

I downloaded the book titled "C# for dummies" and do I need microsoft visual studio 2008? or 2005?.... whats the difference between 2008 and 2005.. I want to learn C# and ASP.net

[badjava]

oasisjoel, on 28 Nov, 2008 - 05:05 PM, said:

I downloaded the book titled "C# for dummies" and do I need microsoft visual studio 2008? or 2005?.... whats the difference between 2008 and 2005.. I want to learn C# and ASP.net

I would suggest vs 2008, when starting out learning it would be best to go with the newer software and technology.