Salary - What is it really like?

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Re: Salary - What is it really like?

Posted 26 February 2009 - 09:39 AM

View Postpr4y, on 25 Feb, 2009 - 07:51 PM, said:

How much is a realistic salary AFTER I get my degree?


Degree? Unless it's in investment banking...

Companies hire for skill set. If you can get past HR, impress an employer that you have the required experience, and demonstrate that you do, you're hired. It has little to do with a degree.

A degree will hopefully prepare you for what you'll do in the world and serves as the "in" for your early interviews when you lack real experience. After you acquire real experience, your degree is only so much dead tree to most companies.

To be fair, I'll offer the stats:

Job Title: DBA
Salary: $95k+
Hours worked (per week): 35
Days worked (schedule): 5
Shift times (schedule): 8:15-16:15
Vacation days: 15
Sick days: 12
Personal days: 3
Location: outside NYC
General living expenses in area: apartments start at $1800/mo, which is less than my property tax
Education: BS in Liberal Arts, Computer Science minor
Years of experience in field: 18

It should be noted, salary is a function of time. I started at the same place over 15 years ago, asked for $36k, got $34k, we were all happy. Also, took a lower paying job that had full health coverage, good package overall, and every bank holiday in the state.

Prior to this, I worked as a consultant. So my degree didn't really say computer guy, but my work experience did. Consulting is a excellent first job, btw. You get to learn a ton of stuff, often on the client's dime.

When asking for salary, the interviewer should look mildly worried. If they look relieved or incredulous, you probably guessed wrong. ;)
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Re: Salary - What is it really like?

Posted 26 February 2009 - 11:23 AM

Job Title: Network Administrator
Salary: $42,500 (current)
Hours worked (per week): 40 + for major work that must be done after hours
Days worked (schedule): Mon-Fri, Saturdays during tax season or major network work.
Shift times (schedule): 8-5 m-f, floating hours 7-6 (m-f) and 9-3 (sat) during tax season.
Vacation days: 2 weeks (more as time with employer increases)
Sick days: 24 hours/3 days
Personal days: 24 hours/3 days (Tied with Sick days)
Location (State is fine):Willmar MN
General living expenses in area (just rent is fine): $700/mo. rent (util included) for my place + $30-$70 for elec.
Education: High School, 2 year AAS (unfinished)
Years of experience in field: 2-3 years
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Re: Salary - What is it really like?

Posted 26 February 2009 - 12:58 PM

Any programmers (not web devs /network analysts/DBAs, etc...) out there that could comment? This thread has made me afraid...very afraid...
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Re: Salary - What is it really like?

Posted 26 February 2009 - 01:00 PM

Afraid of what? That all your hard-time, work, and effort into learning has gone down the drain?
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Re: Salary - What is it really like?

Posted 26 February 2009 - 01:11 PM

View PostKYA, on 26 Feb, 2009 - 01:58 PM, said:

Any programmers (not web devs /network analysts/DBAs, etc...) out there that could comment? This thread has made me afraid...very afraid...


Programmer Analyst I is a programmer
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Re: Salary - What is it really like?

Posted 26 February 2009 - 01:22 PM

Job Title: Web Programmer
Salary: 50,000
Hours worked (per week): 35 (40, but with an hour paid lunch)
Days worked (schedule): Mon-Fri,
Shift times (schedule): Flex time. I work 7am-3pm
Vacation days: 10 under 3 years, with 2 floating holidays
Sick days: Same as vacation days
Personal days: Not sure to be honest
Location (State is fine): Pittsburgh, PA
General living expenses in area (just rent is fine): Live at home because it's 2 miles from my office
Education: CS Degree, Minor in IT
Years of experience in field: 2 1/2
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Re: Salary - What is it really like?

Posted 26 February 2009 - 01:44 PM

View PostHyper, on 26 Feb, 2009 - 01:00 PM, said:

Afraid of what? That all your hard-time, work, and effort into learning has gone down the drain?


That'd be it.
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Re: Salary - What is it really like?

Posted 26 February 2009 - 01:59 PM

View PostKYA, on 26 Feb, 2009 - 01:58 PM, said:

Any programmers (not web devs /network analysts/DBAs, etc...) out there that could comment? This thread has made me afraid...very afraid...


Hmm, our programmers run 60-75 ( DBAs know what everyone makes. ;) ) However, we don't have anyone with less that 8 years experience. New employees have a probation of six months to a year. Out of the gate, you usually make $10k less than after you've stuck it out for a few years.

Just "programmers" are not real high in the IT hierarchy, in spite of the level of expertise and training it requires. If the title has the words "manager" or "administrator", the jump is usually significant. Take a look at the salary surveys and you'll see amount increases consistent with words that are code for "suit".
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Re: Salary - What is it really like?

Posted 26 February 2009 - 02:03 PM

Job Title: (Lead) Developer
Salary: $47k/year
Hours worked (per week): 40
Days worked (schedule): 5
Shift times (schedule): 9am-5pm
Vacation days: 2 work-weeks(10 days)
Sick days: 10
Personal days: 0(haven't asked)
Location (State is fine): Edmonton, Canada
General living expenses in area (just rent is fine): Typical rent for a bachelor suite here is in the region of $750-850/month.

No formal degrees or training.
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Re: Salary - What is it really like?

Posted 26 February 2009 - 02:50 PM

Now how did you all get these jobs.
Secondly, do you enjoy working where you work?
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Re: Salary - What is it really like?

Posted 26 February 2009 - 03:02 PM

I started off as a Merchant Service Rep - Bank was acquired by a bigger bank and I applied for the programmer job. They moved me down to Columbus and kept me for almost a year and then the downsizing bug swept the nation and being junior man on the team my position was eliminated along with about 1500 other positions throughout the bank.
I miss the job and the pay.

I would like this job a lot better if it paid more so I have been shopping the market. I <3 Web Development over IT/Administration work.
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Re: Salary - What is it really like?

Posted 26 February 2009 - 03:09 PM

View PostHyper, on 26 Feb, 2009 - 03:50 PM, said:

Now how did you all get these jobs.

I had to work my ass off to get into the industry. I spent countless hours perfecting my resume, most of the time it was unique for each job that I applied for. As well as interviewing with every possible dead-end. Nothing pissed me off more than knowing that "no" was the answer before we even shook hands.
At the end of the interview, some number was always not enough. Not enough years, not enough clients... then why did you even bother to waist your & more importantly my time with the interview?! Stupid bastards. But I had to do it, because it was another chance.

View PostHyper, on 26 Feb, 2009 - 03:50 PM, said:

Secondly, do you enjoy working , where you work?


I enjoy running my business hands down more than anywhere I've ever worked. I eventually got tired of putting money into everyone else's account. It's been a lot of work, & the worst I'm sure is yet to come. But there is no measure to the personal satisfaction & rewards that it has brought.
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Posted 26 February 2009 - 03:17 PM

You mis spelled "waste," you spelled waist, as in a body part... and ok!
Hijacking threads IS fun (as long as it's on-topic like this). :D
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Posted 26 February 2009 - 03:25 PM

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Re: Salary - What is it really like?

Posted 26 February 2009 - 03:32 PM

I'm not an IT professional, nor do I work in the IT industry, but as a very keen amateur I keep a close eye on the IT industry. Now, I realise that the emerald isle is some distance from Maine, but here in Ireland you could expect to earn from 25,000 - 30,000 as Network Engineer, or 20,000 - 30,000 as a Senior Systems Administrator. Convert that to dollars for your US equivilant & 25,000 equates to approx $35,500 at today's exchange rate.
If you fancy moving to Belfast, Ireland I know of a nice wee house to rent at about 500 per month. And by the way, there is HUGE demand here in Ireland for IT personnel.

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