If your a designer, why do you "code" at all? Or when you guys say you're designers do you really mean web developers?
That is a significant terminology issue, yeah.
When I say "I develop web applications", I mean "I write back-end software, such as frameworks, that websites can be built on top of", but most people seem to hear "I'm a web designer who can make pages that talk to a database." When I then go on to explain that, no, you really don't want me to design the appearance of your site unless you're trying to get something that looks like it just stepped out of 1993, that just produces very confused "how can you be a designer who doesn't design?"-type looks.
We really need some good, commonly-understood terms for differentiating between people who figure out what websites should look like (graphic design); people who put together the HTML/CSS to make the websites look that way; people who decide what websites should do (functional design); people who build appearance-agnostic functionality to drive websites; and people who do various combinations of those three things. But I suppose that will first require teaching the people writing the checks that, yes, there are parts of a website beyond just what you see on your screen, since that's probably why most of them reflexively associate any type of web-related work with graphic design.
there are parts of a website beyond just what you see on your screen, since that's probably why most of them reflexively associate any type of web-related work with graphic design.
haha, yeah my clients from my freelance work generally have no clue what I do -- they just know that I "make it work".
I think the roles of graphic designer and web developer have become blurred.. I don't really know why. Here is my idea of the main roles of web application development.
- Graphic Designer: Creates the graphics and layout of the site. Generally delivers an image of what the site will look like.
- Web Developer: Works with the graphic designer and software developer to create the actual web site. Writes HTML and CSS to implement the graphic designers site image, writes some code to talk to the back end software.
- Software Developer: Writes the business code to perform all the real work.
So the thing that gets me is why so many people seem to be both graphic designer and web developer.
They are two very different roles. I know there are people who may be talented at both, but surely not this many! Graphic design is about art, creativity, and thinking outside of the box. Web development is about knowing browser quirks, churning out html, and writing code.
Maybe I should start another thread for this... lol
That is bad. I was thinking of doing a site that people can add sites that are really bad so that people can learn not what to do. Was thinking because people get confused on the difference between web developers and web designers it cold actually have articles on what they are. If you think this is a good idea then please speak up and enough responses and I will create it but will need a web designer though lol.