10 skills developers need in the next 5 years

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Re: 10 skills developers need in the next 5 years

Post icon  Posted 02 April 2009 - 08:45 AM

@gabehabe Tweeted this topic this morning and I found it rather interesting. The article, 10 Skills Developers Need In The Next 5 Years has some really good ideas, and I think this would make a rather good discussion. So let's discuss
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Posted 02 April 2009 - 09:15 AM

I love how the first thing you see is
1: One of the “Big Three” (.NET, Java, PHP)

Especially since we just had a conversation about PHP being a dying language from a Professor who should be teaching how to use MS Word instead of programming.
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Posted 02 April 2009 - 09:19 AM

Thanks, great article.
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Posted 02 April 2009 - 09:32 AM

My tweeted response:

Interesting 10 skills link. Not sure if I agree with all of it though. There are many other facets of development besides web dev.


To elaborate: there are lots of other things to program then web applications.
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Posted 02 April 2009 - 09:37 AM

While that is true I can vouch that throughout the many hours I spent job hunting corporations are heavily looking for Web Developers. :)

Java and PHP both are in high demand in Columbus, OH.
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Posted 02 April 2009 - 09:39 AM

View PostNykc, on 2 Apr, 2009 - 09:37 AM, said:

While that is true I can vouch that throughout the many hours I spent job hunting corporations are heavily looking for Web Developers. :)

Java and PHP both are in high demand in Columbus, OH.


Definitely. It's the new face of business. Appealing to the tech savy younger demographic.
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Posted 02 April 2009 - 10:41 AM

View PostNykc, on 2 Apr, 2009 - 08:37 AM, said:

Java and PHP both are in high demand in Columbus, OH.


Same a little to the north around Detroit and Port Huron
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Posted 02 April 2009 - 11:42 AM

View PostKYA, on 2 Apr, 2009 - 03:32 PM, said:

My tweeted response:

Interesting 10 skills link. Not sure if I agree with all of it though. There are many other facets of development besides web dev.


To elaborate: there are lots of other things to program then web applications.

I agree with you entirely. While some of the skills may be a little more targeted toward web developers, I think they still describe some great 'generic' skills that are important within the industry. :)
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Posted 02 April 2009 - 01:14 PM

Great article! Thanks PsychoCoder and Gabe!
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Posted 02 April 2009 - 01:50 PM

very interesting.

"Code cowboys", this was fun, but development "hygiene" is for the company and not to the developer. What I'm saying is that if I were the boss, it would not be a requirement to the job, I would not ignore a good developer just because he doesn't have knowledge in a version control system like subversion, because he can learn how to use it in a day.

ruby for dynamic and banking for domain =D
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Posted 02 April 2009 - 02:01 PM

Neat. Don't agree with a lot of it, but a good launch point for discussion.

I disagree with #2, most companies use Flash like they use P2P; sure it could be leveraged effectively, but it's simply not taken seriously.

Implicit in "The BIG three" and all the other webby evangelism is how to talk to a database back end. The M in LAMP, the fundamental back bone of all dynamic web sites. Without some SQL, the middle tier developer is dead in the water.
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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:48 AM

Just curious, the One of the big three Java, PHP and .Net, well my favourite personally is Java however would it be best to devote more time to just one and be an expert in it or would it be better to spread my eggs into more than one ?

Also just concerning knowledge in one dynamic / functional language, just curious what you guys see being used far more frequently in the development world out of Ruby, Python, F#, Groovy and LINQ, i have dabbled in none of these, so which would you suggest is the best to start on, o was thinking ruby or python however from my understandings python can be rather complex.

Interesting read, however i guess it really depends on when the bubble bursts and people take applications too far off the praticle and usefull mainstream, we are seeing this already as many applications (phones etc... ) are gimmitry and passing trends, at the core of it its my belief the future is in sound development for companies and systems and not just the flip flop world of consumers, i could be wrong but i just don't see that industry of tangeble software being sustainable in the medium or long term, the way forward is in scientific applications and systems and also in software systems to improve efficiency, not software that urges people to buy some junky phone loaded with some stupid thing ( looks at apple and that phone you shake and it does things ), that sort of thing is pointless and so impracticle, i don't see it going very far for the average users, perhaps super geeks and peopel inclined to being ripped off might go for it, however those with some sense go for things basic and functional.

Anyway thats my 2c, thanks for the blog link :)
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Posted 03 April 2009 - 02:10 AM

View Postbbq, on 3 Apr, 2009 - 07:48 AM, said:

some junky phone loaded with some stupid thing ( looks at apple and that phone you shake and it does things ), that sort of thing is pointless and so impracticle, i don't see it going very far for the average users, perhaps super geeks and peopel inclined to being ripped off might go for it, however those with some sense go for things basic and functional.


Are you serious? We've all heard stories of people holding the mouse up to the screen. Sure, it's a dumb thing to do but at least part of the fault is in the design of the hardware. Something you shake, tap, tip and touch has got to be a better interaction model than an unintuitive mouse and keyboard or physical buttons that change their actions depending on the current mode of the phone.

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 04:40 AM

I like the hygiene. very appropriate.
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Posted 03 April 2009 - 08:10 PM

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@cfoley:
How is a keyboard unintuitive? The only part most people have to worry about is the letters. Besides, the keyboards on phones look just like the keyboards on computers, but smaller and harder to type with, in my opinion. As for mobile development, I just can't see myself doing stuff like... oh let's go with coding, on my phone. I see the phone as a communication device as opposed to a computer.

Anyway. Interesting link. I've got 3 and kind of 4 of them, but have 3 years till I'm out of college. By then, there will probably be a completely different list.

Oh, and if I couldn't use a mouse on a computer, I would kill something.
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